WOT - UK guys - money question

[Roobubba]

You'll find the fact you get a teeny bit more in London of little interest, but also beware that the cost of living nearish London is in some places just as high, but you don't get as much cash to reflect this! I hate to break it to you Londoners, but life is not any less un-peachy elsewhere in the UK ;)

Roo

(PS I live in Oxford and work in London and Sutton)

[FernandoDuarte]

Portuguese nationality is OK? no problems at all?

[dave_mc]

^ should be, portugal is in the EU. :)

obviously check it out, though, just in case i'm wrong.

[nfe]

How objectionable of you.  Not to say mannerless, ignorant, rude, arrogant, etc

Nope.

Just accurate. With the tiniest touch of exaggeration for effect.

If it wasn't for gigs I'd never ever have set foot in the place again after the first time. Hell, had it been an option I'd have have gone straight back to the airport after ten minutes. :x

[FernandoDuarte]

^ should be, portugal is in the EU. :)

obviously check it out, though, just in case i'm wrong.

I saw it on the EU website, but the speech is something but real life tends to be not 100% accurate :lol:

[Will]

I must say London scares me, not going to complain directly as I am scared there will be taunts of 'coun'ry folk'
Some of my distant family have been to NZ at one time or another (upon losing UK driving licenses) and from what I gather it is rather different, your main motorway is a simple dual carriageway to us, as well as the goodwill of the people there being different.

[FernandoDuarte]

Nope.

Just accurate. With the tiniest touch of exaggeration for effect.

If it wasn't for gigs I'd never ever have set foot in the place again after the first time. Hell, had it been an option I'd have have gone straight back to the airport after ten minutes. :x

Don't know if because I was speechless in being on 1st world for the 1st time or because I'm from third world and I'm used to rudeness, but I hadn't big problems there...
Could say three:
1) A guy on a store didn't understand me saying "pencil" (really couldn't understand why...)
2) Oxford Street, I was searching a store that only sells leather clothes and things and sellers didn't understand me saying "leather" (said in many different ways, but I think it's more because I wasn't looking to buy anything, and it's normal here in BR too)
3) Denmark Street: Unfortunatelly never have had a awesome service on any musical store I've ever been into, so, unfortunatelly there was the same, very bad service, beside a few stores I went (can't remember exactly which ones, think a bass store and the V&R, but I discovered in one of the last ones that I was misspelling Knuckle :lol: I was saying the K on it)

[nfe]

Admittedly, the biggest city I regularly spend time in is Glasgow, which is examplary for manners. All the scoundrels who'll stab you in the neck for a fiver still hold doors open for folks and say please and thankyou  :lol:

But compared to other big cities worldwide, compared to other capital cities especially. London is horrendous.

All my friends who live there should leave so I can go visit them  :(

[Elliot]

Nothing you say is accurate, and in a city of 8 million residents plus lots of transients you are making giving the standard prejudiced northerner generalisation based on what can only be minimal experience.  When you say Londoners - are you sure you are not referring to people coming from the north to do their shopping, because I've lived here most of my life and your description doesn't ring true for me.

[nfe]

Nothing you say is accurate,

Teehee  :lol:

and in a city of 8 million residents plus lots of transients you are making giving the standard prejudiced northerner generalisation based on what can only be minimal experience. 

But what's the common demoninator amongst the plethora of northerners that hate the place?  :lol: Given that folk from the south east seem to think everything above the watford ga is northern? That's a lot of people from a lot of vastly different cities and communities.

When you say Londoners - are you sure you are not referring to people coming from the north to do their shopping, because I've lived here most of my life and your description doesn't ring true for me.

Well, I imagine if I grew up in Tokyo I wouldn't consider New York to be very busy. Relativity no? So clearly if you have lived most of your life there you're not going to find it absurdly rude, since you're always gonna compare everywhere else to it, rather than compare it to anywhere else.

If you can find me a city where you hear please and thankyou less (anywhere in the world) I will be surprised.  :lol: Now, admittedly, I've not been everywhere in the world, but I've been to a good deal of the major cities in Europe, the states and Australiasia and none of them inspire the same distaste that London does. I really wish it wasn;t the case, cause there's so much good stuff there to go visit.

Oh, and new sig, just for you.

[38thBeatle]

In my experience of cities ( & I have been to just about all the major cities in the UK and many in Europe and a few in the USA) I don't think London is any better or worse than anywhere else. Sure I moan sometimes when I have to go there for business because of the tedious nature of getting around but I was there last week (on business) and had a few hours to kill and wandered around the city and thoroughly enjoyed myself looking up old haunts and bringing back memories ( I don't normally get the time to do so). If you look for bad, you will find it just as you will find good if you look for that. For the record, I love Glasgow too.  

[Jonesy76]

Each city has it's own positives and negatives.

Yes London in my experience (and I've had one hell of a lot of experience of it when my girlfriend - now my wife - lived in St Johns Wood) is a great city for seeing the sights, and getting out and doing things you only normally see on the TV.  I regularly go down to take in the shows down there whether at Covent Garden or in the West End.  Great fun city..........but heaven help you if you suffered a heart attack on the street because people WOULD simply walk straight past you.  It's not that Londoners are unfriendly (get to know them and they're as hospitable as any Brit), it's just that they're always too consumed with their own existences.

Now Manchester you could have a heart attack in the street and someone would stop to help.......that's if some gand of kids hasn't nicked your wallet already.  I spent 5 years in Manchester at Uni and loved it, but I no loner feel safe when I go back up there to see friends.  Now at 6'5" I'm easilly big enough to look after myself so I don't know why I feel like that, but I just do.  The people are all still just as friendly though.

Then you get the likes of Paris.  Every Brit I know says that Paris is the most unfriendly city in the entire world, but I speak French and have never found a problem with it. 
It's just simpler to base your opinions on your own experiences and take everyone elses views as their own.

And Fernando.......you should come to Norfolk!  Portugese is the second language after English here, due to the large Portugese population who wok over here

[FernandoDuarte]

Each city has it's own positives and negatives.

Agreed!

And Fernando.......you should come to Norfolk!  Portugese is the second language after English here, due to the large Portugese population who wok over here

Well, thanks for the tip.. Nortfolk is exactly where?
One of the reasons I'm getting out to try to become a guitar builder (or in a longer shot) tattoo artist... This means double shift for a while, I think :lol: So I *think* I might go to the big cities... But, have never been on the countryside, so not sure if I'm thinking right... Here in BR, forget about it outside cities with more than million people...

And for portuguese, damn I speak it for 24 year, want to speak a top notch english (been working on, think I got better since I start here and other things...)

[Philly Q]

Great fun city..........but heaven help you if you suffered a heart attack on the street because people WOULD simply walk straight past you.  It's not that Londoners are unfriendly (get to know them and they're as hospitable as any Brit), it's just that they're always too consumed with their own existences.

I think that's a pretty fair description.

[ToneMonkey]

I don't mind London too much.  I still find all the people a bit wierd (the amount, not the people....... well some of the people).  I think it's what you make of it.

If you have chance to move from NZ to the UK, then give it a bash.  I've been trying to move the other way for years and now that I'm married with a sprog on the way, I think the chances of it are getting les everyday.  I'd do something about it before you end up living in a place that you really don't want to like I have.