Username: Password:

Author Topic: ** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)  (Read 23745 times)

TwilightOdyssey

  • Guest
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2005, 04:37:34 PM »
Okay, here's what I did:

After disconnecting everything, I attached the humbucker directly to the output jack using aligator clips: HUM.

When I touched the SIGNAL clip, I got signal.

When I touched the GROUND clip: HUM STOPPPED.

HJM

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2005, 04:54:14 PM »
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Okay, here's what I did:

After disconnecting everything, I attached the humbucker directly to the output jack using aligator clips: HUM.

When I touched the SIGNAL clip, I got signal.

When I touched the GROUND clip: HUM STOPPPED.


This is wierd....it has to be a ground issue. If you touch the amp chassis does the hum stop?
Apache,VHII,Emerald,Nailbomb,MiracleMan,StormyMonday,BlackDog,Trilogy,Mothersmilk,Sultans+Sinner

TwilightOdyssey

  • Guest
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2005, 05:58:09 PM »
Quote from: HJM
This is wierd....

Ageed.
Quote
it has to be a ground issue.

Agreed.
Quote
If you touch the amp chassis does the hum stop?

Just checked that ... yes, it stops.

HJM

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2005, 06:23:12 PM »
I take it that everything is fine with other guitars?
Apache,VHII,Emerald,Nailbomb,MiracleMan,StormyMonday,BlackDog,Trilogy,Mothersmilk,Sultans+Sinner

TwilightOdyssey

  • Guest
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2005, 06:31:44 PM »
Yeah ... hehe, I knew that question would come up. My other guitars are fine.

I'm taking a break from it and then I'm going to try using 2 seperate wires from the output jack ... right now I'm using a single shielded cable: the center conductor as signal, and the shield as ground.

Some of my guitars have seperate wires, and some are using one ... so, I will try it out and report back!

HJM

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2005, 08:12:44 PM »
Wow - don't know what it is......is the internal cavity shielded...although don't know if this would make any difference! :?:
Apache,VHII,Emerald,Nailbomb,MiracleMan,StormyMonday,BlackDog,Trilogy,Mothersmilk,Sultans+Sinner

TwilightOdyssey

  • Guest
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2005, 08:20:07 PM »
Yes, the internal cavities are shielded with conductive paint.

I'm going to try the seperate wires idea, and if that doesn't work, I'll string the bad-boy up, complete the setup, and then give it another go.

Peterku

  • Featherweight
  • ***
  • Posts: 454
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2005, 08:43:07 PM »
Did you have the cavity's shielding grounded? Don't know whether that makes a difference, though...

HJM

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2005, 09:56:03 PM »
Quote from: Peterku
Did you have the cavity's shielding grounded? Don't know whether that makes a difference, though...


You can get more hum sometimes with shielding paint....you get lots of little earth loops due to variance in earth potential accross the shielding paint...hence the idea behind star grounding all earths to one point. I knew all those science lessons weren't a waste of time....(hmmm)

Not that I think that's the problem here.

If you touch the pickup wires to the jack plug, with no socket, what happens to the hum?
Apache,VHII,Emerald,Nailbomb,MiracleMan,StormyMonday,BlackDog,Trilogy,Mothersmilk,Sultans+Sinner

TwilightOdyssey

  • Guest
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2005, 10:27:15 PM »
Quote from: HJM
If you touch the pickup wires to the jack plug, with no socket, what happens to the hum?

I tried doing this, but it's impossible to hold the pickup wires directly to the plug without using my hands!!

HJM

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2005, 09:53:58 AM »
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Quote from: HJM
If you touch the pickup wires to the jack plug, with no socket, what happens to the hum?

I tried doing this, but it's impossible to hold the pickup wires directly to the plug without using my hands!!


Gloves?? Or do what I do and get some insulating tape and make a spot where you can hold the braid..
Apache,VHII,Emerald,Nailbomb,MiracleMan,StormyMonday,BlackDog,Trilogy,Mothersmilk,Sultans+Sinner

Tim

  • BKP
  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1918
    • http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2005, 12:09:29 PM »
It's definately a grounding thing, strip back the braid so you've got a nice clear section of cloth inner core.Attach the inner core to hot and the braid to cold of the jack AND then earth the jack to the guitar and the hum'll go.Connecting a pickup direct to the jack leaves it with floating ground as it's not earthed to the guitar-hum city!
Tim
BKP - "Wound, made and played the traditional way --- by hand!" Amen.

HJM

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2005, 01:59:07 PM »
Have you re-soldered teh trem claw connection, this must be a really good, bright solder joint, if it's dull, try agai. You'll need a meaty iron, 25w will struggle, try a 40w iron to make sure - if this is a poor joint it could be the cause of the problem. :idea:
Apache,VHII,Emerald,Nailbomb,MiracleMan,StormyMonday,BlackDog,Trilogy,Mothersmilk,Sultans+Sinner

TwilightOdyssey

  • Guest
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2005, 02:14:12 PM »
Thanx for the tips, gents!

My iron is a 40 watter; I will be re-checking the connexions today and getting back to ya! :)

HJM

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
** WIRING ASSISTANCE NEEDED** (Pic incl.)
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2005, 02:28:27 PM »
Quote from: TwilightOdyssey
Thanx for the tips, gents!

My iron is a 40 watter; I will be re-checking the connexions today and getting back to ya! :)
Should be fine - get the claw nice and hot!
Apache,VHII,Emerald,Nailbomb,MiracleMan,StormyMonday,BlackDog,Trilogy,Mothersmilk,Sultans+Sinner