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Roobubba

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Re: New cab or new speakers ?
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2009, 11:45:06 PM »
Try Celestion G12K-100's. The high end isn't as harsh as the V30, the mids are sweet and fat and the low end is tight. Not that expensive either.

Wisest words spoken so far ;)

Roo

I will take a look, it's the 1st time I have heard reference to these speakers, are they a well kept secret ?

Search on these forums for "G12K" or "G12K-100" and you should find a few hits ;) Cracking speakers, really beautiful chimey cleans, and under distortion you can get a fantastic low-mid grind from them. Quite a smooth top end, but not muffled or overly dark. Very clear! I absolutely love them paired with my EVM12L-blacks in a 4x12.

Roo

Was it you Roo who did a review on these on Harmony Central? i think i saw a review on them and thought it was you...

Seriously considering getting some, though, how different are they to G12T-100 'Hot 100's'? 'cause i'm getting my hands on some of those soon...

Haven't AB-d them, I'm afraid, so I wouldn't be able to say exactly how they compare. I did have some Hot 100s in a Randall solid state amp a while back, and the speakers seemed pretty decent to me, but without a proper like-for-like comparison, it's difficult to comment further!

Roo

PS HC review might have been me, would have been a while back though, and I probably copied and pasted my post from these forums!

hamfist

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Re: New cab or new speakers ?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2009, 08:14:10 AM »
how different are they to G12T-100 'Hot 100's'? 'cause i'm getting my hands on some of those soon...

The key difference is that the T-100's have medium weight, 35oz., magnets (same as greenbacks), and will therefore not be capable of the tight and substantial bass response that the K-100's have, with their 50oz magnets (same as H-30's).

The weight of the magnet is possibly THE most important factor in determining a guitar speaker's characteristics. Next important is the cone, and then other subtleties.

Roobubba

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Re: New cab or new speakers ?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2009, 12:02:10 PM »
Incidentally, yesterday I switched out the Fender speaker from my 1992 Fender Princeton 112 Plus (65W solid state fairly cheapish amp I got when quite a bit younger!). I put in one of the Peavey Sheffield 1200 speakers (16ohm, 75W power handling, much MUCH higher efficiency - as I found out...) from my 5150 cab (I'd switched all of these out previously). The amp now has VERY different characteristics than it did before. The cleans are superb, I'm actually surprised how much nicer they are now with the Peavey speaker than the Fender one - glassy and rich instead of cold and sterile. Under distortion, the amp kicks a lot more bass out, and handles the baritone register so much more ably than it did before. Oh and the whole lot is about a million times louder than it used to be! Oops! Can't comfortably get the volume above 0.5/10 in the house now! LOL

Anyway, the moral I wanted to bring out was that changing the speakers can sometimes have very surprising effects, and very dramatic effects at that. Definitely worth experimenting if you have the chance!

Roo

Bob Johnson

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Re: New cab or new speakers ?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2009, 05:48:44 PM »
I'd look (very thoroughly) for a structural vibration problem before rushing out and buying speakers. From your description, albeit somewhat lacking in detail, I'd check out everything in the cab structure and then anything that might be parked close to it first.
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Bob Johnson
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