about to order a BKP set for my SG Standard.

[djpatb]

Now I'm reading that Crawlers are pretty good for 70's/stoner rock kinda stuff and can get heavy, and they're a little daker than the RY's. My main amp (Electric Amp MVU) can get pretty dark in the low mids, so that's why my gut is telling me RY...to balance it out.

[LP_LOVER]

True, you are right about that.

The Rebel Yell neck is lovely. It's thick, big and warm with tight bass response.

[ericsabbath]

I don't think the rebel yell will be as fat you want
it's definitely way better and more present than the 498t (as it's brighter and has a ton of mids), but not really hotter

I always disagreed with Tim over his SG advices, but now I understand his position
I always thought that the Holy Diver would be the perfect pickup for a SG and better than in a Les Paul
not that it sounded bad, but I was wrong
it sounded darker, more nasal and lost a lot of picking response on the low notes (it is very balanced and tight sounding compared to most alnico pups on les pauls)
medium output pickups seem to take part of natural SG sound, but aren't strong enough to put their own character over it
SGs don't have that treble sparkle of a Les Paul maple top and the flat top with bat pickguard doesn't allow the bridge pickup to be positioned in parallel with the strings like on a Les Paul, so the pickups respond very different
that's why he always repeat: for SG, go easy or go extreme

I'll keep the Warpig advice
it's not the monster you probably think
it's like a Diver, but more gritty on the mids and has a brighter top end
and it cleans up very well and sounds very thick on leads and rhythms without getting hard or harsh in any way
some bands that you mentioned may not use extreme pickups, but they all use boosters (except Clutch, I think)
the only downside that kept me away from a Warpig was exactly the fact that it makes everything sound Iommi-like, and unhappily, that's not what my bands play  :(

[Philly Q]

I always disagreed with Tim over his SG advices, but now I understand his position
I always thought that the Holy Diver would be the perfect pickup for a SG and better than in a Les Paul
not that it sounded bad, but I was wrong
it sounded darker, more nasal and lost a lot of picking response on the low notes (it is very balanced and tight sounding compared to most alnico pups on les pauls)
medium output pickups seem to take part of natural SG sound, but aren't strong enough to put their own character over it
SGs don't have that treble sparkle of a Les Paul maple top and the flat top with bat pickguard doesn't allow the bridge pickup to be positioned in parallel with the strings like on a Les Paul, so the pickups respond very different
that's why he always repeat: for SG, go easy or go extreme

I agree, but I think the brighter medium output BKPs can work in an SG (or similar).  The Cold Sweats definitely do (IMO), and I think the RY would too.

From my own experience of Crawlers, I think they'd be too dark and bassy in an SG.  I can't really comment on the other models, but I suspect the other medium/medium-hot pickups wouldn't really suit SGs either.

[LP_LOVER]

I don't think the rebel yell will be as fat you want
it's definitely way better and more present than the 498t (as it's brighter and has a ton of mids), but not really hotter

I always thought that the Holy Diver would be the perfect pickup for a SG and better than in a Les Paul
not that it sounded bad, but I was wrong
it sounded darker, more nasal and lost a lot of picking response on the low notes (it is very balanced and tight sounding compared to most alnico pups on les pauls)

Well, from my personal experiences with the HD's and RY's I can say that the RY's are definately tighter/brighter and more defined in the bass, with an overall much cleaner/clearer tone...The HD is looser from nature and I can imagine that it could easily turn into mud (in most thick mahogany bodies).

I remember a clean clip that you made with the CS/HD combo and it definately sounded very different from my 80's Gibson Les Paul Custom with HD's.

[Vilches3]

how would the VHII's sound out of an SG?......from the description they seem like a good option as well

[djpatb]

I just ordered them

Rebel Yell bridge and Riff Raff neck....raw nickel.