THAT IS NOT FAIR!

[ToneMonkey]

I'm with Roo hear (god help me  :( ) but I'm starting to see LP's in the same light that I see strats.  Personally I think I've just seen too many of them to really notice anymore.  I still like them, but they bring on a total feeling of indifference (although I still see the odd one that I like).

Although in fairness, I might be getting a tele, so take that Roobubba you little space sheep  :P

A Tele, eh? Your boyfriend buying that for you? ;)

Hahah you love it :)

Roo

No your missus is buying it for me to say thanks for the other night.  You should stay out late more often  :lol:

[Roobubba]

I'm with Roo hear (god help me  :( ) but I'm starting to see LP's in the same light that I see strats.  Personally I think I've just seen too many of them to really notice anymore.  I still like them, but they bring on a total feeling of indifference (although I still see the odd one that I like).

Although in fairness, I might be getting a tele, so take that Roobubba you little space sheep  :P

A Tele, eh? Your boyfriend buying that for you? ;)

Hahah you love it :)

Roo

No your missus is buying it for me to say thanks for the other night.  You should stay out late more often  :lol:

haha! Chance would be a fine thing though :(

[martinw]

Exactly.  You can tell the only thing of importance to the head of Gibson is $$$$$$$.

But it's OK for PRS to charge $38,000 for a guitar, just because his holiness St Paul did 10 minutes sanding on it, and wrote his name in the pick up cavities?   :lol: :lol:

And £20 for a control pot is acceptable, and not money grabbing?

[Philly Q]

Blimey, this thread is turning into a battleground!  :lol:

[Twinfan]

Exactly.  You can tell the only thing of importance to the head of Gibson is $$$$$$$.

But it's OK for PRS to charge $38,000 for a guitar, just because his holiness St Paul did 10 minutes sanding on it, and wrote his name in the pick up cavities?   :lol: :lol:

And £20 for a control pot is acceptable, and not money grabbing?

I never said the pot price was acceptable, I just quoted the fact  ;)  And the Paul's 28 model is a complete joke!

But at least the regular models are consistently well built and sound good  :)

[martinw]

Exactly.  You can tell the only thing of importance to the head of Gibson is $$$$$$$.

But it's OK for PRS to charge $38,000 for a guitar, just because his holiness St Paul did 10 minutes sanding on it, and wrote his name in the pick up cavities?   :lol: :lol:

And £20 for a control pot is acceptable, and not money grabbing?

I never said the pot price was acceptable, I just quoted the fact  ;)  And the Paul's 28 model is a complete joke!

But at least the regular models are consistently well built and sound good  :)

True, but that's not the point I made. You attacked Gibson for being money focussed - clearly they're not alone! 

[Twinfan]

Not at all!  But at least PRS has an eye on quality too  ;)

[martinw]

So that makes it ok to charge over the odds?  :lol: 

Guess I'll be sent for "re-Neducation" soon....

[jpfamps]

All businesses have to be money focussed otherwise they would be out of business.

I really don't see why this arouses so much ire. If you think a guitar is too expensive/ poor value for money then don't buy it.

There is now plenty of choice of new guitars in all styles to suit all price ranges.

Attention to QC is makes sense from a customer service level AND a business level. Fender went bankrupt essentially due to poor QC. Equally, having a good product hasn't stopped Matchless going out of business at least 3 times (mind you they had QC problems with their first run of amps....).





 

[AndyR]

If you think a guitar is too expensive/ poor value for money then don't buy it.

Sound, sound words :D

I tried one of the roadworn fenders on saturday (the 50s tele) - it was a seriously nice guitar. SERIOUSLY nice, I couldn't stop talking about it when we went for coffee. It's the first time I've wished my missus could play, just so that she could feel how good it was...

But £799? It was not worth it to me at the moment...

My missus even wondered why, if it was that good, I didn't buy it and then get rid of some of the others like many do? But something just didn't feel right to me...

When I got home I found out what it was - my pimped Baja feels just as good, it's just it's got more lacquer on the neck (and it's staying there!) :lol:

I'd love to have that LP up the top of this thread (or one that looks like it and has no QC issues, etc :lol:), but I don't think I'm ever going to feel comfortable paying that much for a guitar - so I'm not losing any sleep :D

[Twinfan]

So that makes it ok to charge over the odds?  :lol: 

That's one limited edition model mate, not the upper end of their standard range!!  :lol:

[AndyR]

So that makes it ok to charge over the odds?  :lol: 

That's one limited edition model mate, not the upper end of their standard range!!  :lol:

Is anyone else getting confused here?

Are they debating a "limited edition" control pot... or am I missing something :lol:

[Twinfan]

It's just Martin getting all defensive  :lol:

I'm expecting nfe to chime in about the bad side of PRS any second too  :lol:

[d1dsj]

I don't know why people get all bent out of shape... if you want a PRS and it ticks all the boxes... get it, if you want an L.P and IT ticks all the boxes get that one. One things for sure... no one will tell me what I should spend my hard earned on and I wouldn't tell anyone else. Guitars are great and I love all sorts .... Tele's, Strats, PRS, SG's, LP's etc etc... but no matter what style I get I have to like the feel of it. I've tried loads and loads of LP.s and found 3 I really liked and ended up buying, I've played loads of Strats, bought 3 and sold them all only to find I prefer G&L's, I've tried probably only 2 dozen PRS's including the Santana and non seemed to feel right for me, but I know there is at least 1 PRS out there for me... it's just finding it (I actually think Twins got it!!  :(  ). When my mates laugh at my old looking tatty ish LP.s telling me to get something better I just laugh.... it bothers them more than it bothers me  :D.

[Lew]

Cool thread  8)  :shock:

Another difference between a Tele and a Lespaul is you can spend around 1k for the modern american deluxe or the vintage 52ri and have a great feeling, sounding and set up real deal (not a studio/faded etc...) guitar... which leads on to the Gibson rant  :lol:

I don't see how can anyone can really compare a Gibson to a PRS. It's not even possible to compare Gibson to the SE range because they are put together better, even with the new PLEK machine they're using the odd Gibson manages to go out the door with bad frets, not to mention that on most (not all) of the LesPauls I've seen over the last 12-18 months the wood is splintered where the stop bar goes into the wood and the binding more often than not doesn't meet the body.

A Lespaul standard isn't that much cheaper than a standard PRS (£300-500 depending on the dealer) either and the VOS that cost £3300 upward still don't come close to the PRS at £2000.

Having said all that... it's clearly a bit of a generalization to say the least as alot of LesPauls out there are KILLER and sound amazing but that's been my experience.

Also the Lespaul image kinda transends all of the bad stuff because, like Hunter said, the image is so damn iconic.
 :D