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MDV

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Composite body guitars
« on: February 18, 2009, 01:11:24 PM »
Anyone got any pics?

Me and Bob are talking about using a composite body design JS/Horizon/curvy superstrat, but pics of layered bodies are hard to find! (i.e. cant find ANY!)
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 01:43:41 PM »
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 01:55:53 PM »
is composite materials what we are talking about?   or a shape thats a composite of other models?

because my first thoughst were the same as gwems.. must have steinbergers on the brain ;)
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 02:11:05 PM »
What about something like Conklin do with their "melted" muliti-timber bodies?


http://www.conklinguitars.com/innovations_information.html
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 02:16:07 PM »
Quote from: Philly Q on February 18, 2009, 02:11:05 PM
What about something like Conklin do with their "melted" muliti-timber bodies?


http://www.conklinguitars.com/innovations_information.html

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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 06:19:14 PM »
Jerry Garcia had a guitar with a Tiger inlay in the body top that had a body and various other parts made of layered (composite) tonewoods and I was trying to find some pics of it to show Mark. Since this type of construction is frequently used in bass guitars I thought it might be interesting to explore the possibilities with a long scale guitar. The basic proposition is that this type of structure has a lower resonant frequency which would be ideal for a longer scale. There are loads of pics out there that purport to be replicas of the Jerry Garcia Tiger but none of them have a body and headstock laminated from Maple and (I think) purpleheart like the one I saw many years ago.
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 06:23:36 PM »
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 06:30:19 PM »
OK Mark got it. these are pics of basses using composite (timber) bodies.
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 07:01:00 PM »
cool, the old hippy sandwich!!

a couple of my older guitars were done with layered 3 or 5 piece bodies.  i did do one that was mainly maple and purpleheart with a thin lacewood top.. it went a bit wrong so i ended up spraying it blue


tonally it was nice and actually ended up being my main guitar for a long time.  it was a nicely balanced mix, a strong top-end but not harsh or ice-picky
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 07:36:41 PM »
The only non bass I can think of this this. Hope it doesn't put you off

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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 08:04:04 PM »
Quote from: WezV on February 18, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
cool, the old hippy sandwich!!

a couple of my older guitars were done with layered 3 or 5 piece bodies.  i did do one that was mainly maple and purpleheart with a thin lacewood top.. it went a bit wrong so i ended up spraying it blue


tonally it was nice and actually ended up being my main guitar for a long time.  it was a nicely balanced mix, a strong top-end but not harsh or ice-picky

C'mon Wez; what went wrong then?
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 08:09:20 PM »
finishing issues... one of the reasons i ship them out now :D  to be honest it could have been saved but i decided to go another way as i wasnt enjoying the look of the lacewood


the only jarring thing about the chespeake is the fact so far they have only used figured maple to do it

imagine it with no scratchplate, the face veneer being something dark like wenge or mac ebony and the wood behind being something plain but grainy

its potentially a tasty design if you strip away the layers of bling

anyway, the best thing about layered bodies is carving them - very satisfying
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 08:11:08 PM »
That first bass looks awesome

The second one closer to what I had in mind

The bottom left conklin is fantastic (the least figured I know, but (bob must be sick of this by now!) the black and red woods look awesome together!)

The one thats actually closest to what I was picturing is the one justbecos put up (thanks) but it looks like a mini-guitar inside a background. So did my (rubbish) drawings. But it could be much better - i think the problem with that one is that the centre is too plain and the edge too figured. More balance needed.
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 08:24:51 PM »
Anyway it all makes the point that you can have a carved/shaped, veneered, layered, composite top without resorting to complex devices to conceal the contours; make a feature out of the layers and you wind up with something special.

It's a very nice blue Wez; that must have been some consolation :D
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Re: Composite body guitars
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 08:30:02 PM »
Quote from: Bob Johnson on February 18, 2009, 08:24:51 PM
Anyway it all makes the point that you can have a carved/shaped, veneered, layered, composite top without resorting to complex devices to conceal the contours; make a feature out of the layers and you wind up with something special.

Indeed!
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