PK and NB enigmas

[Fikealox]

I just installed some Nailbombs in my SG special last night. I'm really happy. Like most BKPs, they were a bit fussy about pickup height, but once I got the bridge pickup up nice and high it fattened up a whole heap, and the neck sounds nice and lush. The EQ is more balanced than the stock Gibson pickups, and there's more life and harmonic response. The NBs definitely aren't too dark in the all mahogany SG, though if I were playing metal I'd probably want a bit more articulation (but I'm not, so I don't ;)). Awesome blues/ballad tones!

ATM, I have the controls wired up as master volume and master tone (with two disconnected pots), but i may do away with the tone pot altogether. The neck is as close to "woman tone" as I like with the tone on full, and the bridge just gets truly horrendous "suck tone" when I touch the tone pot :(

[Dr. Vic]

Oh !  :o

That !   PDT_023

HDs not only didn't come though the wall of screeching highs of the other guitar, but they failed to overpower it in the bottom end... usually all i need to show who's the boss is to do some palm muting and feel the air moving... HDs were curiously weak in this department, despite their otherwise dark sound. a mistery.

I started this topic with enigmas around 2 pups, but it's name has now to be changed with the HD to be added !!!. Have you ever speak to some HD users (like Antag and Eric H on this topic) to see if they had the same feeling? I have understood the HD as a really THICK Pickup with loads of lows and mids (not upper mids, but mids and lows mids ) . Don't you have any pb with some wood or something with your guitar design that could explain that to us ????? This is just  :o


As for me, you guys solved the questions I had about the PK : Congratulations 8).
As a result I know this one is not for me  :lol:
BUT as for the NB I still stay in trouble...  :? :? :? since I discover the demo of the JCM800 KK by Chris George using some NB on this other topic : http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16434.0
And a clip of the NB I didn't heard before too here : http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14300.0
 
........The sounds are awesome, It has what I look for : tight - quite enough / thick / agressive / growly / organic / top harmonics. But not sure if it has some of the low-mid push I love in the MM... And if it will be dark enough too... As you seems to agree the NB is close to the modern Megadeth, and that I am searching to nail that sound + dream theater (pull me under) + Linkin Park (Meteora) then I might not be so far...  What would the HD adds or take out in those sounds ??

AND Do you think these 2 clips are rather demonstrative of the tonal possibilities of the NB as for rythm palm mute + agressivity (to me these 2 sounds have absolutely nothing to do with ALL the other NB clip I have listen to and that always gave me a sensation of something warm, smooth, or what you want BUT raw and agressive...).

Is the NB Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde ??  :crazy2: :hmm: And can the NB be the versatile MM I am looking for ?


Any answer very very welcome here !!!!!!!!!
Many Thanks !! 

[Benkenove]

What I've come clear after tried a few BKP, and read tons of posts is this...

You must try...

Everybody has their own guitars... different woods, shapes, weights... different amps, different, different cabs, different playing style... and definitly, different TASTES...

So what is good for me cannot be good for other...

My best advise is... if you are between 2... MM and NB (for example), simply get both, try them both, and keep the most you like and sell the other (or whatever you think)...

That's the only way... That's what I did...

No matter how can I explain with my words how I felt the pickup :(, there are many many different factors that really matter in the sound...

I've read amazing descriptions in this thread, and I think that shoudl be good enough to help you "to make an idea"... of what should you get...

There are many different pickups that really works well for what you asked... dont be affraid man, and go for it ;) and then tell us your experience :D

Good luck and I hope you can back here with the pickup installed and good clips of it ;)

[syr2012]

I've been wondering about something regarding the Nailbomb. What would happen if I were to get one wound to 18-19k? How would that affect the sound? Has anyone tried it before? I'd email Tim, but I don't want to bother the man until maybe a week or so before I order. What benefits would I get from a calibrated set, vs. a Nailbomb at the bridge and a P-92 at the neck?

[dheim]

What benefits would I get from a calibrated set, vs. a Nailbomb at the bridge and a P-92 at the neck?

with calibrated sets you get two pickups that match perfectly (in terms of tone and output) according to the taste of their maker... i won't change anything - but of course i've got the advantage of having a wide choice of sets... a great "alternative" set is a bridge warpig with a pig90, and many (i'd say most) players on this forum couple whatever bridge pickup they like with a cold sweat neck... assuming that you've got two humbucker sized pickup sockets your choice is huge, and you can put in bridge position an HB sized p90 (aka Mississippi Queen) wound as you prefer... original MQs sound great but they're too vintagey to be mixed with high output humbuckers... a pig90 rivals even the warpig. and is very clear and tight, more articulated than the WP neck (it's a single coil, after all!) and i bet you can ask for intermediate windings...

[syr2012]

I'm buying a body and neck, so I can get it bored any way I like. I'm kinda ambivalent about having a humbucker at the neck anyway (my previous experiences with them were eh), and I'm a P-90 junkie anyway. To be honest, I'm more curious about an overwound Nailbomb...

[dheim]

uhm... it seems like i'm one of the few who actually finds the nailbomb pretty brutal when it needs to be, but i think you should try it (unless you've already done) as it is!

[Dr. Vic]

I've been wondering about something regarding the Nailbomb. What would happen if I were to get one wound to 18-19k? How would that affect the sound? Has anyone tried it before? I'd email Tim, but I don't want to bother the man until maybe a week or so before I order.

interesting question...do you know if it possible to get an overwound NB ?

I wonder if it will just give you more output or also give you more tightness and maybe a little different EQ..??

[syr2012]

I've been wondering about something regarding the Nailbomb. What would happen if I were to get one wound to 18-19k? How would that affect the sound? Has anyone tried it before? I'd email Tim, but I don't want to bother the man until maybe a week or so before I order.

interesting question...do you know if it possible to get an overwound NB ?

I wonder if it will just give you more output or also give you more tightness and maybe a little different EQ..??

If Tim can overwind my Mississippi Queen for me, I have no doubt that he'll overwind a Nailbomb, provided it doesn't compromise the sound.

[MDV]

I have a 23k miracle man. So, yes.

[Dr. Vic]

thanks man !

I know that the NB isn't your cup of tea :lol:, but how would you expect of the sound of :
- an overwound NB compared to a regular NB
- a C-NB compared to the regular NB

I mean they will have more /less of what ?

 

[ericsabbath]

how would you expect of the sound of :
- an overwound NB compared to a regular NB

darker, thicker, more compressed, less tight
like a warpig, but probably darker

- a C-NB compared to the regular NB

brighter, tighter, hotter, less organic, stiffer response

[syr2012]

how would you expect of the sound of :
- an overwound NB compared to a regular NB

darker, thicker, more compressed, less tight
like a warpig, but probably darker

- a C-NB compared to the regular NB

brighter, tighter, hotter, less organic, stiffer response

What woods do you think nailbombs are best in?

[Dr. Vic]

Many many thanks for the top chrono input  :lol:

What about the mids in the C-NB ? more or less than the NB ? smoother or more biting than the NB ?

I read that ceramic "sucks" the mids of the A5, but don't know what to think about that...

[MDV]

My overwound MM is no less tight than my previous 2 mms in the same guitar. Tighter, if anything.