miracle man neck

[dheim]

the MM GAS is going further, but i've still got a doubt. noone seems to talk about neck MM, and often "reviews" and opinions come from bridge-only users... i love (and need, for my sound) neck pickups! how does it compare with other neck BKPs i know? (CS, NB, HD, WP...) is it too dark and scooped?

[Antag]

I find the MM neck very smooth, full & powerful sounding yet also really precise.

On the clean channel it's a little too powerful for my tastes, but for noodly high gain legato neck leads, it's THE #1 choice :)  It splits well.

Have a listen to my neck shootouts:
clean
lead (FWIW the HD & CS are in a separate thread)

[dheim]

compared to the CS is it less defined or more sccoped?

[Antag]

compared to the CS is it less defined or more sccoped?

hmmm...

I'd say equally defined, less scooped (but more powerful)

[dheim]

ok, thanks! after all i think i'll go for a set as usual... i already planned to split coils, so it shoud work even for gentler cleans...

[Lazy_McDoesnothing]

I know a while back there was some speculation that the Warpig and MM necks were the same, but that's probably changed since then.  There were a few other models that started the same or similar but were tweaked by Tim.  Can anyone confirm or deny?

[ericsabbath]

the MM GAS is going further, but i've still got a doubt. noone seems to talk about neck MM, and often "reviews" and opinions come from bridge-only users... i love (and need, for my sound) neck pickups! how does it compare with other neck BKPs i know? (CS, NB, HD, WP...) is it too dark and scooped?

compared to the CS is it less defined or more sccoped?

darker, more powerful, compressed and fluid, definitely more middy, less defined (but still very clear)
in the bridge position, it sounds like a darker and more compressed version of the holy diver
more like a tone zone than an emg 85
a bit too fat and dark for a les paul neck, imo

I know a while back there was some speculation that the Warpig and MM necks were the same, but that's probably changed since then.  There were a few other models that started the same or similar but were tweaked by Tim.  Can anyone confirm or deny?

I don't know if they are the same, but they definitely sound pretty close, imo

the bridge alnico warpig is brighter, more grindy and aggressive, though

[dheim]

the bridge alnico warpig is brighter, more grindy and aggressive, though

bridge warpig is brighter than bridge MM? while neck WP and MM sound quite the same?
now my ideas on MM are even more confused... once i thought it was overly bright, then i understood it's simply  scooped with a huge lowrange and cutting highs, and now you're telling me that it's darker than a WP?
 :?

[DimeZakk]

The Warpig bridge is anything else but not bright - nowhere near as bright as a MM

[il˙ti]

bridge warpig is brighter than bridge MM?

He meant NECK Miracle Man.

[ericsabbath]

bridge warpig is brighter than bridge MM?

He meant NECK Miracle Man.

this!  :lol:
I was comparing the warpig and miracle man neck versions, and the miracle man NECK version in the BRIDGE position with the BRIDGE warpig

now talking about their bridge versions, I played the warpig and miracle man in different but similar guitars (the MM'ed is  all brazilian mahogany + bolt-on mahogany neck + floyd, the pigged one is brazilian mahogany + bolt-on maple neck and fixed bridge) and the pigged guitar sounded brighter
the miracle man is a very weird pickup
it just enhances the difference between the low and the high frequencies
like a sonic maximizer or something  :lol:
in a way that it will sound very dark in a dark guitar and very bright in a bright guitar
I bought it the first time to install it in a dark les paul copy, expecting it to make it brighter
it actually made that guitar way darker than the same guitar with the holy diver, painkiller and other pups
in my brighter les paul, it definitely sounded brighter than the holy diver, but still no near as bright as the cold sweat I have in it today
having a lot of treble doesn't make a pickup necessarily bright, unless you only play higher notes
the warpig was much brighter than I expected