YouTube to block UK music videos

[Jonny]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7933565.stm

:?

[ChunkyMunky]

We're screwed.

[Adam.M]

Oh well.

I don't really understand why the PRS exists... i only hear bad things about it.

And looking at what they've funded... what cr@p! they haven't funded anything of interest what so ever.

[Dmoney]

they should sort out how stupidly unfair it is for british bands to tour america, compared to the difficulties faced by US bands coming here.

[Oli]

If the PRS are pushing for way more money, then I can see why Google have decided not to give in- profits for YouTube (in 2008), were predicted to only be $180-$200million, which for an online company purchased for $1.6 billion (2 years ago), isn't very good at all. Even though in the last few months they've really been pushing adverts on the site, it's still not generating enough income for other companies to be able to demand a higher price (PRS, Warner music etc.)

[ChunkyMunky]

In essence, Youtube is gonna be having a firstclass ticket onboard the fail boat.

[CaptainDesslock]

nothing more than corporate clowns spewing their greed all over the common man.....

in retrospect, this is the perfect theme for a new Radiohead song!

[AndyR]

Hmmm... there's another angle on this, which we as potential creators of music, for which we'd like to be paid, maybe ought to bear in mind...

You guys do realise that if you're a songwriter, PRS is the body that collects your royalty income for your publisher, and therefore for you, in the UK, don't you?

That is, unless you feel like going to all distributors yourself (radio stations, venues, restaurants, cafes, web sites like YouTube, and so on) to negotiate a separate deal with each one and then extract the money from them personally :lol:

This news report does seem to imply that PRS was still in negotiating mode for a licence fee, and as I read it, Youtube, as part of their own "negotiation", have decided to resort to whipping up public opinion to force PRS, and therefore the owners of songs (people like us and our publishers) to accept a smaller income than PRS was trying to negotiate...

Maybe this is a good thing, maybe this is a bad thing, I don't have enough knowledge or detailed info to go on... but as a creator of music I don't like what it smells like :(

[Johnny Mac]

Bah, storm in a tea cup. It'll all blow over.

[MrBump]

Hmmm... there's another angle on this, which we as potential creators of music, for which we'd like to be paid, maybe ought to bear in mind...

You guys do realise that if you're a songwriter, PRS is the body that collects your royalty income for your publisher, and therefore for you, in the UK, don't you?

That is, unless you feel like going to all distributors yourself (radio stations, venues, restaurants, cafes, web sites like YouTube, and so on) to negotiate a separate deal with each one and then extract the money from them personally :lol:

This news report does seem to imply that PRS was still in negotiating mode for a licence fee, and as I read it, Youtube, as part of their own "negotiation", have decided to resort to whipping up public opinion to force PRS, and therefore the owners of songs (people like us and our publishers) to accept a smaller income than PRS was trying to negotiate...

Maybe this is a good thing, maybe this is a bad thing, I don't have enough knowledge or detailed info to go on... but as a creator of music I don't like what it smells like :(

PRS gets a bad press, but does some good.  You see them every now and again on the pub and club scene noting the music that pro and semi pro bands play.  I remember watching a jazz band in Pizza Express adjust their set to that they played more songs from "deserving" songwriters (i.e. the estates of poor generally black blues and jazz artists) got the cash.

Mark.

[Afghan Dave]

I remember watching a jazz band in Pizza Express adjust their set to that they played more songs from "deserving" songwriters (i.e. the estates of poor generally black blues and jazz artists) got the cash.

Mark.

Now THAT is VERY cool..

[tomjackson]

I mainly look at old blues clips and guys with mullets playing fast Telecaster Chicken' picken'.

So I probably won't notice a difference :D

[nfe]

PRS isn't trying to negotiate a higher fee for individual viewings, they're trying to get a higher payment because of the increase in the volume of viewings overall, well, actually that's not even what it is, youtube are demandin to pay less than the current rate so that their costs don't increase as the use of their site skyrockets indefinately. Basically, if I started using a hundred times as much energy at home but decided I was going to demand to get to pay a hundredth of the current rate so that I didn't have to pay more overall.

If you use more electricity than you used to, your bill goes up...

[MDV]

Wheres the facepalm smiley?

I need a facepalm smiley!

[Fourth Feline]

We're screwed.

Well said C.M.  :)

I have been taught more / been able to research more / been encouraged and downright inspired to develop more as a guitarist by watching and re-watching 'You Tube'  presentations - than by any other single medium.

Let us hope that ( as Johnny Mac opined ) this will blow over - or as Nfe and Afghan Dave implied, we can get an ethical resolve which enables people that really appreciate / utilise the service to carry on doing so. 

" You don't know what you've got till it's gone "  e.t.c.