Ok, so what's the most output pup that's also the darkest???

[MDV]

"I need high output, organic PAF-ish tones with tight bass, focus on low mids, but with a good deal of clarity AND will clean up well when you roll back the volume now"

Though this makes me think cold sweat.

[MDV]

Also not 'dark', though. But given the rest of your descriptions and objections to other pickups I'm not sure 'dark' is what you really want, but rather 'not harsh or brittle'. BKs high ends are another thing entirely, and you wont find anything brittle or harsh about them.

[the_bleeding]

OP's post describes a warpig perfectly.

It will make your g/b/e strings very thick and smooth. It takes out the higher end spectrum, so instead of the glassy jangle, its just thick and preserved. Rounded off is a very good description.

Has good bass, lots of low mids, and lots of clarity, and will clean up. The bass is big, but not loose. I wouldnt call it tight either, but its tight enough. Sludgy is the last word i'd use to describe it.
Plus, if you just roll the volume back a tad, it will roll of bass and put you closer to vintage territory.

You want a warpig.



In response to other posts: the warpig is not very modern sounding. heavy as balls yes, but i wouldnt say "modern". With a 500k pot, it pulls of vintage gain very very well, especially with the volume rolled back a bit.
With a 1megK pot, it will add treble and give it more of a modern feel.

I should mention, by vintage gain, i mean you can hit the Black Sabbath Warpigs tone PERFECTLY.

[Will]

This is a tough one, the smoothened highs does make you think WP. If it weren't for the woods, a HD would be nice, maybe slightly adjusted wind so its treble isn't too smooth

[alendon]

I have to agree about the a5 pigs not sounding modern although they can depending what you put them through.
IMO their heaviness comes from their eq response as opposed to their huge output.
I think they excel at lower gained fuzztones.
I run mine through a way huge swollen pickle into the plexiish channel on a Marshall jvm 2 and with lower gain settings on the pickle it's pure sabbath.depending on the compression settings on the pedal I can get warpigs,sweet leaf etc.
The pigs don't sound dark either .the tone graph on the bkp site is a bit misleading in that it shows a big treble roll off but the roll off seems to be more in the high mids which in fact emphasises the highs a bit,which balance beautifully with the frankly monstrous lows and low mids.
And if anyone thinks the a5 pigs are too loose in the lows think again ...they are'nt loose in the slightest.

['Ash' J. Williams]

I recently acquired a Mark IV and, for what it's worth, my Black Dogs equipped LP is a great match. Never sounded harsh or too bright in my case.
Also played my ESP Horizon NT1 with Holy Divers in it and it's incredible; but i think the Black Dogs were perfect.
Have to try it with my brighter bkp'd guitars.

Have to say also that this amp is a very particular beast : The treble pot is the one leading the sound (on all channels), the more you go, the less effect the bass and mid pots do. Quite confusing at first...