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fbloke

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Abraxas - any love?
« on: March 14, 2009, 06:56:35 PM »
I've just bottled out of buying a set of Black Dogs in favour of an Abraxas set - I'm looking for some warmth underneath the growl and not too much sharpness in the top end.

Has anyone bought a set of Abraxas?  What do you think of them?

Thanks,

Mike.

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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2009, 08:23:49 PM »
Hey Mike.

I have a pair of Abraxas in my PRS CU22 Trem and really like them. The neck is very similar (if not the same) as a Mule which I have in a Les Paul and the bridge is quite hot but not overly so and not too bright.

I find them to be a very versatile set of pickups and make for a versatile guitar :)

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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2009, 10:50:01 PM »
Hey man, I posted a fairly long review of my Abraxas set here: http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15855.0 I think they'rea great set of pickups, but I'm actually selling mine now (having traded my last trem-ed guitar). If you want to pick up a black, uncovered, F-spaced set for cheap, hit me up ;)

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Ex-BKPs: Abrax, NB, SM, PK, Mule, WP.

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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2009, 11:00:42 PM »
I do not have any Abraxas, but I have a huge interest in the Abraxas Neck which is an AIV (like the stock Mule, Crawler and Emerald) whereas I think the Black Dog Neck you looked at first  is an AV.

Your question, I think has been posted quite often. The reason could be that the Abraxas isn't as popular as the other 'classics of the BKP range', and that shows how much information is needed !. The exact words from the Man about the Abraxas, found around here on this place are :

« The Abraxas humbuckers are voiced for a hot, sweet and singing vintage tone.As you all know, original PAFs were all in the DC8-9K region but I wanted to create a pickup that had a similar vibe but more power......a mix of early and modern Santana I guess. The tone is bright yet sweet.............the clarity extends through the bass too and it's a medium output humbucker. In the right hands it'll still rock though. As those of you who are used to the tone of Alnico IV now will know, it's a better balanced version of Alnico II............bottom line, no mush in the bass, balanced mids and sweet highs-not syrupy though! The overall tone is pure vintage but with some extra power for those singing latin leads. For the Abraxas neck I've been doing an Alnico IV version of the Emerald...balanced output with extra sweetness. » 8) 8) 8)


On this one-of-a-kind topic you have Tim explaining what could be the benefit of an AIV:  :D
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=e6cd6e37ba3e8338336255e2bd3edb8c&topic=288.0

On this one Tim speaks of the black dog while saying few words about the AIV (I think I'm in love with this magnet  :lol: !)
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=e6cd6e37ba3e8338336255e2bd3edb8c&topic=27.0


Then if you want to have some pointers to see how the Abraxas (especially the neck) compare to the other AIV, especially the Crawler, have a look at those topics :

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=e6cd6e37ba3e8338336255e2bd3edb8c&topic=14044.0

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=e6cd6e37ba3e8338336255e2bd3edb8c&topic=10194.msg133041#msg133041

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=e6cd6e37ba3e8338336255e2bd3edb8c&topic=15888.0


Once again, last but not least, here is what Tim says about that :

«Abraxas and Crawlers are very similar : fat, warm and singing. The Abraxas neck is just a little sweeter, the Crawler neck sounded slightly tougher/more aggressive. the Crawler is a little hotter than Abraxas although both are AIV powered. The Crawler neck takes the neck Mule tone to a much hotter level-DC7.6K Alnico IV. »  8) 8) 8)


AND FINALLY also have a close look to Fikealox review which is VERY USEFULL

I suppose that if you aimed at having warmth AND SWEETNESS over growl or bite, then you made the right choice ! AND Don't forget to tell us how much you'll be happy when your Abraxas would be be plugged in !!
 PDT_003


« Last Edit: March 14, 2009, 11:02:58 PM by Dr. Vic »

fbloke

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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2009, 11:45:36 PM »
Brow, Fikealox - many thanks for your helpful replies, I really appreciate it.

Dr. Vic - the Oscar goes to you for the most comprehensive and positive reply to any forum post I've made!  I can't wait to get the Abraxas installed - when I do and I've given them a serious road test I'll post again and let you know how they sound.  I'm going to try the Abraxas Les Paul through a hot Mesa Boogie for the real Santana experience.  The key words I've read around these pickups are singing, hot and sweet. I'm pretty confident that this will be the case, I think Tim is the most talented pickup manufacturer out there. 

Cheers,

Mike.

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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 06:04:15 PM »
The description of the Abraxas being similar, but not quite as hot as the Crawler sounds very appealing - I loved the Crawler's tone, but it was a little bit too hot for the PAF tone I tend to favour and probably just a little bit too much midrange.

otoh, my Mules can be a tiny bit weak for certain amps/styles, so the Abraxas might just be the answer.

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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 07:05:05 PM »
Hiya

I've used the covered Abraxis bridge pickup a bit.

I'd discribe it as follows.

Clean:
When clean the Abraxis bridge has a character I would discribe as bright, strong, clear and solid.
It has a very even responce across the frequencies with a notable drop off at both the extreme low frequecies and extreame highs. so no boom and no icepick.  the most noticable characteristic of this pickup clean is it almost sounds as if there is a gentle touch of compression to the tone. Its very even but still has some character to the mids that does grab attention.  I have heard this pickup be used clean sucessfully for Jazz, Rock and Roll, Latin and modern pop ballads.

Distorted:
This is where this pickup really shines. The tone here is exactly what you'd expect. the lack of boom and icepick frequencies with the compressed sound gives a strong clear sound with a slight classic feel. Even underneath heavy gain settings every note is perfectly defined. Incredible for guitar solos. Distorted rhythm work sounds precise, solid yet charactered. Takes well to the full range of gain settings. At the gently pushed end the compressed character gives a uniquely solid and even tone whilst at high gain it still maintains clarity but still with slightly classic character. Usable for modern (post 50's) blues, clasic rock, Pop and a suprizingly beautiful Metal pickup.

Its probably too ballsy and charactered for extreme shred (through a Marshall at any rate). try a Nailbomb.
Also the lack of bottom and slight compression leaves it not the best choice for jazz dispite being PAF charactetered. (Stormy Mondays, PGs and Mules a better choice here)

As an overview this is a strong pickup with a PAF character that cuts through a mix like a hot knife through butter and absolutely demands an audiences attention. If you want to sit gently in the back of the mix this pickup is going to be a bit too much. if on the other hand you want to turn heads when you kick in with your strong yet classic tone this is absolutely the pickup for you.... Its Heroic yet classy and classic.

Well thats what I think anyway.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2009, 08:06:34 PM by theroyalconsort »
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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2009, 09:43:11 AM »
Guessing here, but wouldn't an Abraxas be a pretty classy "stoner" pickup in the Josh Homme/Tim Sult mode?
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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2009, 11:08:58 AM »
It would have a great tone for that sort of music.

The clarity and lack of mud would mean that it would take dropped tunings without a problem whilst retaining a classic character.

« Last Edit: March 18, 2009, 12:23:38 PM by theroyalconsort »
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Re: Abraxas - any love?
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 03:21:54 PM »
I have always played Carlos Santana tunes live and much of my recording and demo duties have that language to them.
Unfortunately, Carlos has made subtle tone changes through the years and if you wanted early Carlos tone, the guitar had to have PAFs and driven hard from the amp and backed off with volume.
Since 1981, PRS sounds took over (from Yamaha) and this required pickups with a touch of PAF gold but a healthy dollop of 'push' from alnico magnets and more windings.
I believe the Abraxas pickups will give me most of the above tonality because it is based upon the PAF design but hotter for more modern 'Supernatural' widdling!
I know I'm about to get them for my guitars and look forward to going back in time for that early sound I've longed for over decades.
shalom
Jeff