Discussion: What makes a guitar "hand made"?

[HairyChris]

Does this get classed as handmade?

http://guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9544

 :lol:

[MDV]

Does this get classed as handmade?

http://guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9544

 :lol:

That looks like I imagine my first attempt at building a guitar would look :lol:

Someone actually asked for payment for this?

[Philly Q]

Does this get classed as handmade?

http://guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9544

I read that thread, and it was funny, but I didn't get it.... did they buy the guitar just to rip the piss out of it?

[blue]

does anyone remember the guy that made the "superbass"?

that was hand made :)

[HairyChris]

Does this get classed as handmade?

http://guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9544

I read that thread, and it was funny, but I didn't get it.... did they buy the guitar just to rip the piss out of it?

Well, the builder (I use the term loosely) pimped his stuff on their forum, got called on QC, and basically kept repeating the line that he could build guitars that sounded better then any other. There's a lot of back story. Some forum users clubbed together and ordered one to basically call him on his claims.

The unfortunate thing is that while they did it for laughs there are other people who may spend their hard earned cash on one for real. Every proper luthier I've talked with has always been the first to say that they are always learning, this guy... Well, a cautionary tale I suppose.

[HairyChris]

That looks like I imagine my first attempt at building a guitar would look :lol:

Someone actually asked for payment for this?

Around $1000 Aus. The case alone cost $115 Aus!!

[Lew]

shiteecakes... that's worse than Gibsons QC :O

The whole thread is a good read.

[dave_mc]

Sounds like good sense to me. 

I don't know why people talk as if using technology somehow makes the product worse.  I couldn't care less if something has been cut out by a computer-guided laser or by a band of Tibetan monks using miniature chisels made from ferrets' teeth.  It's the end product that counts, as far as I'm concerned *.

(* so long as the relevant workforce aren't being cruelly exploited in a ropey sweatshop somewhere)

agreed. i just want the better product, assuming no-one's being badly treated.

which one are you talking about? :?

:lol:

Cheeky sod!

;)

EDIT: oh man, i knew devries had a terrible rep, but that one just takes the biscuit... o_O

[MrBump]

Does this get classed as handmade?

http://guitarsatbmusic.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9544

 :lol:

Holy Mother!!!

My Ikea effort was better than that.  And that was cr@p.

[HairyChris]

Back on topic (and apologies for the derail), on pondering I think that one thing that can be considered is the single luthier working on an instrument vs a line system where the instrument is handed from person to person...

[FernandoDuarte]

My lord :o

[WezV]

that truly was shocking.  despite what i said about 'hand made' being largely a marketing term i do think it covers what i do.... and as a largely unknown guy trying to make a name for decnt guitars stuff like that scares the shite out of me.  I guess i can be happy that decent photos and even the odd sound clip show i am above that.

I still want to see the email correspondence on that build, just because i do a lot by email and might worry if it matches what i say to people ;)

its people like that who will give us small builders a bad name and  makes people think they are better off with a name they now

if you buy something from me for $800 i will still care enougth to make sure it plays good and sounds an plays good (or i wont be selling at all)... i wont be blamng you for buying an $800 guitar when it sounds and plays like shite.

truth is i set up a emily the strange Epi this week... and i had very little work to do.  It was noticably better when i had finished... but nowhere near as noticably as i had hoped it would be.  I even considered that with a pickup and hardware change it might be a pretty decent guitar

[MDV]

Wez, are you drunk?

I dont mean anything by it, I am, but c'mon now - coherent and non-repetative sentences please ;)

[WezV]

erm, maybe a little.  it is 1am on a friday night!!

i am either drunk or a forum geek


truth is i am both but you really should get used to how my responses change on friday and saturday nights ;)

[WezV]

at least you know me as a drunk rather than someone spouting bullshitee!!  i always feel i know someone once i have seen them drunk  :P