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Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« on: March 24, 2009, 10:16:34 PM »
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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 10:33:38 PM »
I'm pretty sure the wind doesn't change.
So the differences between the ceramic versions should be more or less the same as the differences between the A5 versions, right?

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 11:39:25 PM »
The wind does change a little - its less turns to compensate for the C8 driving the wind harder.

Cant really comment on the differences on the whole - I have and A-Pig and a C-pig and have had nailbombs, but I believe the only place I've knowingly heard a C-Bomb is on sikths albums and a couple of gigs, so I cant really say.

But yeah, its gonna be a big difference- the WPs and NBs are very different pickups. Were I to guess, I'd say Rock pig is right. (But the ceramic might have quite a different effect on the NB wind, I dunno)

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2009, 12:27:22 AM »
Dear Nolly,

post in my thread.

signed,  :shock:

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 01:25:07 AM »
Hah, you called?

C-bomb: Tight, clear, punchy/middy, lean
C-pig: more saturated, more compressed, darker, bigger

Something like that anyway
« Last Edit: March 26, 2009, 01:28:50 AM by Nolly »

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 03:59:36 PM »
Won't the C-NB be something close to the PK, maybe with just  little less tightness and less upper mid push in its voice ?


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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 10:13:50 PM »
Won't the C-NB be something close to the PK, maybe with just  little less tightness and less upper mid push in its voice ?



Not really, the voicing difference is pretty big. It's like a more muscular and darker Cold Sweat.

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 10:47:59 PM »
Sounds good !

Isn't it the C-NB too bright, compared at least to those CS and even PK ?

And does the C-NB keep the same voicing and organic qualities of the stock NB (as much as can a Ceramic) ? I mean does it just tighten the bass and sharpen the high or does it also smoothen the mids alot ?

I am asking that because the CS is known to be very balanced and clear with rather a neutral EQ (with very smooth mids) that never color the natural sound of the guitar (correct me if I am wrong) so if the C-NB ressemble a hotter but darker CS I was wondering if it will loose a lot from the voicing of the stock NB....

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 11:11:36 PM »
It's like a more muscular and darker Cold Sweat.

isn't it middy like the painkiller?

or maybe the extra brightness you feel from the sweat is also related to the wood?
don't you have it on an ash body or something?


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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 11:21:05 PM »
Sounds good !

Isn't it the C-NB too bright, compared at least to those CS and even PK ?

And does the C-NB keep the same voicing and organic qualities of the stock NB (as much as can a Ceramic) ? I mean does it just tighten the bass and sharpen the high or does it also smoothen the mids alot ?

I am asking that because the CS is known to be very balanced and clear with rather a neutral EQ (with very smooth mids) that never color the natural sound of the guitar (correct me if I am wrong) so if the C-NB ressemble a hotter but darker CS I was wondering if it will loose a lot from the voicing of the stock NB....



the cold sweat DOES color the natural sound
a LOT, if you ask me
it just doesn't change the main voicing of the wood like most of the other models do
no bass or mid boost or cut
but it adds that nice "slightly driven boost" feel, that makes the midrange crunch and the highs a bit brighter
and that's what is great about it!
not that it muds or distorts anything, but it has a built-in mojo crunch  :lol:
something like the miracle man does to the low mids only, but the miracle man affects the whole shape of the tone and distorts a little more in that specific frequency range (that huge grinding roar on the low mids, but keeping the bottom end and highs all clean)
that's why I like them more than the painkiller, which is pretty "wild" and loud on the mids, but somehow it's "cleaner"
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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 11:46:57 PM »
Sounds good !

Isn't it the C-NB too bright, compared at least to those CS and even PK ?

And does the C-NB keep the same voicing and organic qualities of the stock NB (as much as can a Ceramic) ? I mean does it just tighten the bass and sharpen the high or does it also smoothen the mids alot ?

I am asking that because the CS is known to be very balanced and clear with rather a neutral EQ (with very smooth mids) that never color the natural sound of the guitar (correct me if I am wrong) so if the C-NB ressemble a hotter but darker CS I was wondering if it will loose a lot from the voicing of the stock NB....


The C-NB is darker than the PK and CS. It's a bit of a cross between the CS and the NB, beyond that is getting into details too subtle for me to distinguish without identical side-by-side comparison.

It's like a more muscular and darker Cold Sweat.

isn't it middy like the painkiller?

or maybe the extra brightness you feel from the sweat is also related to the wood?
don't you have it on an ash body or something?


ps: you're great!  :D :D :D :D

It's middy, but not in the way that the Painkiller is.
The CS is bright and clear in all the cases I have encountered it.

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2009, 02:14:12 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Which would be better for breakdown heavy chug metal? (in low G/drop F)

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2009, 03:37:12 AM »
Thanks for the replies. Which would be better for breakdown heavy chug metal? (in low G/drop F)

probably the one with less output
the cold sweat in this case (that's still hot as hell)


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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2009, 11:21:44 PM »
Yeah, Cold Sweat or Painkiller for that.

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Re: Difference between Cpig and Cnailbomb?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2009, 09:12:37 AM »
How do they do cleans, in comparison to their A5 versions? What bodies do they do best in?
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