Difference between chambered and weight relieved Les Pauls

[shobet]

Apols. if some of this stuff has been covered before. I found it interesting how the new modern pauls are kept lighter.

Weight relieved



Chambered - $%&# me you're buying more air than you are guitar!



Also the difference between long and short neck tenons.


I find this stuff fascinating. Her indoors thinks I should probably get out a bit more...

Most of those pics were pinched from here. A nice little collection of pics for anyone interested in these 6 string things we like to spend our money on.
http://www.mcquain.com/lespaul/miscellaneous/

[Philly Q]

That chambered BFG (or whatever it is) probably has less solid wood than my 339!  You'd think they'd be incredibly light - but they're not.

[Will]

Whats this got to do with Les Pauls?
http://www.mcquain.com/lespaul/miscellaneous/EyeShadow.gif

[shobet]

Whats this got to do with Les Pauls?
http://www.mcquain.com/lespaul/miscellaneous/EyeShadow.gif

The wood is a means to an end! 

[Jonny]

Whats this got to do with Les Pauls?
http://www.mcquain.com/lespaul/miscellaneous/EyeShadow.gif

Hmm.

Doesn't look like she's lacking in fullness.

Lol @ http://www.mcquain.com/lespaul/miscellaneous/BigBoyToys.jpg

[ailean]

The 2008 Lesp Paul is chambered and is very light, lighter than a strat, so it could well be a 2008 body in that pic.

[Will]

The 2008 Lesp Paul is chambered and is very light, lighter than a strat, so it could well be a 2008 body in that pic.

P90 in the neck, the observations of Phil. So it is probably a BFG.
In 2007 they changed all USA standard factory to chambered I think, but it didn't go down too well, and some went back.
Although I think in 2007 it was even more hollow, there was no ring of wood around the control cavity. ie you could drop a penny into the backplate and could get it to rattle in the bottom horn as well as all the way around to the top horn (If I am making sense? :P )

What is that woman's name? I can't for the life of me remember.

[WezV]

the top two are normal les paul weight relief holes

middle is definatly a chambered BFG

The last is a Supreme - they get a carved maple back and all wiring is fed in through that extra large jack socket

you can see the weight relief isnt really something that has a massive tonal impact - although it does have some.  there is no real loss of stiffness in the mahogany body and it vibrates in a very similar to way to a solid body.  the chambered ones are very different

what you cant see on the BFg is the patented 'Toneflakes'  they leave in the chambers ;)

[shobet]

what you cant see on the BFg is the patented 'Toneflakes'  they leave in the chambers ;)

They're great!

[psy]

what you cant see on the BFg is the patented 'Toneflakes'  they leave in the chambers ;)

They're great!

Don't you mean 'they're gggrrreeeaattt!'

I'll get my coat

[Bradock PI]

Be fun to make one with lead in the weight relief holes - just so you can ask a mate to get your guitar for you and watch him get a hernia !! :lol:

[shaman]

I have owned them all-what I like about my swiss cheese standard is the ability to achieve feedback-the cool, controlled feedback/Nugent style stuff....very resonant ..find the sweet spot and weeeeeee!!!not as bottom heavy as,say, my old pancake Custom, but I really dig the lively feel it has 8)

[martinw]

I love my chambered LP Studio Vintage Mahogany.

Zingy and resonant. And lighter!  :D

In fact, I'd be reluctant to have an all-solid LP type guitar now, unless it was made with very special wood.

[sgmypod]

Have A Chambered Guild Bluesbird...don't think as drastic as one of the LP mentioned..but great sound...and still is far from light

[Ratrod]

The weight relief was done because they couldn't find light weigh mahogany anymore.

Many people thought they had light weight mahogany Les Paul but it was actually a weight relief Les Paul. They never told anyone when they started this, what I would call, SCAM.

If you want a chambered Les Paul, buy a Gretsch Jet.


Gibson has lost all credibility in my book.