Username: Password:

Author Topic: WOW  (Read 6423 times)

MDV

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 6945
  • If it sounds good it IS good
Re: WOW
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2009, 02:05:34 PM »
A 22k A2?

I can just  hear what Tim would say :lol:

Philly Q

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 18109
Re: WOW
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2009, 02:39:22 PM »
A 22k A2?

I can just  hear what Tim would say :lol:

That reminded me - totally off-topic, but somebody's been trying to sell an A2 Holydiver neck pickup on eBay for ages (not that there's anything wrong with an 8k A2).  He keeps relisting it but never gets any takers - probably over-ambitious with the starting price.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bare-Knuckle-Pickups-Holy-Diver-A2-Neck-Humbucker_W0QQitemZ160327387731QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item160327387731&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
BKPs I Had:  RY+Abraxas, Crawlers, BD+SM

Adam.M

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 1109
    • http://www.healeyamps.co.uk
Re: WOW
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2009, 05:21:45 PM »
A 22k A2?

I can just  hear what Tim would say :lol:

That reminded me - totally off-topic, but somebody's been trying to sell an A2 Holydiver neck pickup on eBay for ages (not that there's anything wrong with an 8k A2).  He keeps relisting it but never gets any takers - probably over-ambitious with the starting price.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bare-Knuckle-Pickups-Holy-Diver-A2-Neck-Humbucker_W0QQitemZ160327387731QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item160327387731&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318


WAY over ambitious! i've never paid more than £60 for a second hand BKP

There was someone trying to sell a single coil set for more than a humbucker set usually goes for on ebay. I found that just baffling, as even new theres a 40 quid price difference between the hummies set and a singles set.

But yeah, after some reading into the SH-5 i do beleive a Cold Sweat is the way to go.
www.healeyamps.co.uk

PRS Cu 24, Carlsbro 60TC, Line 6 AM4, Dunlop DB01

MGheartGuitar

  • Junior Flyweight
  • *
  • Posts: 24
    • Me on MySpace
Re: WOW
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2009, 06:17:13 PM »
Nice! Glad to see some people on here who still love and appreciate the Kings of the Bay area!

My band toured with Exodus in 2006, it was an awesome time and I still count Gary and Lee as good friends. They even asked me to tech for them! Gary's live tone is killer, and (for the most part) could be had fairly easily. There are a few tricks and tidbits that will help you get closer, which I'd be more than happy to share with you guys here. Bear in mind that his rig may be different now, as this was almost 3 full years ago.

The most important element to Gary's guitar tone is in his guitar set-up. His fingerboards are scalloped fairly deeply, and he plays with a pretty light touch to match. Typically he has medium-low action, but with very little relief. This requires very precise fretwork, as a big part of his sound is the "crunchy" pseudo-buzz he gets from the frets but it's very easy to end up sounding buzzy and cr@ppy by going this route.

He uses a TS-9 mainly as a boost for solos, and a noise gate set pretty hard to give his sound that precise tightness for the rhythm chugging parts.

His EQ settings tend towards a scoop, but it's a far more mild scoop than they used to do. Mids usually hovered at around 3 but went higher sometimes, IIRC.

I can't remember what cabs he was using, though he used our cabinets sometimes and he sounded pretty much the same. We were using regular Marshall 1960B's, which have Celestion G12T-75's.

As far as pickups go, I remember him saying he tried a couple different models (and I faintly recall him saying he used a JB sometimes) and landed at the SH-5 though he had used EMG's in the past (Fabulous Disaster in particular). The Cold Sweat would probably land you in that general area (from what I've heard of them, I don't own any you see) and I reckon the Holy Diver would also be a good choice.

I hope that helped and didn't stray too far off-topic!  :D
Full Blown Chaos on MySpace

MDV

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 6945
  • If it sounds good it IS good
Re: WOW
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2009, 06:28:42 PM »
A helpfull post, thanks.

Philly Q

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 18109
Re: WOW
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2009, 07:02:55 PM »
I hope that helped and didn't stray too far off-topic!  :D

That was very interesting, and I'm not even an Exodus fan!  :D
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
BKPs I Had:  RY+Abraxas, Crawlers, BD+SM

ericsabbath

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 4702
    • Colidium
Re: WOW
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2009, 08:02:45 PM »
Nice! Glad to see some people on here who still love and appreciate the Kings of the Bay area!

My band toured with Exodus in 2006, it was an awesome time and I still count Gary and Lee as good friends. They even asked me to tech for them! Gary's live tone is killer, and (for the most part) could be had fairly easily. There are a few tricks and tidbits that will help you get closer, which I'd be more than happy to share with you guys here. Bear in mind that his rig may be different now, as this was almost 3 full years ago.

The most important element to Gary's guitar tone is in his guitar set-up. His fingerboards are scalloped fairly deeply, and he plays with a pretty light touch to match. Typically he has medium-low action, but with very little relief. This requires very precise fretwork, as a big part of his sound is the "crunchy" pseudo-buzz he gets from the frets but it's very easy to end up sounding buzzy and cr@ppy by going this route.

He uses a TS-9 mainly as a boost for solos, and a noise gate set pretty hard to give his sound that precise tightness for the rhythm chugging parts.

His EQ settings tend towards a scoop, but it's a far more mild scoop than they used to do. Mids usually hovered at around 3 but went higher sometimes, IIRC.

I can't remember what cabs he was using, though he used our cabinets sometimes and he sounded pretty much the same. We were using regular Marshall 1960B's, which have Celestion G12T-75's.

As far as pickups go, I remember him saying he tried a couple different models (and I faintly recall him saying he used a JB sometimes) and landed at the SH-5 though he had used EMG's in the past (Fabulous Disaster in particular). The Cold Sweat would probably land you in that general area (from what I've heard of them, I don't own any you see) and I reckon the Holy Diver would also be a good choice.

I hope that helped and didn't stray too far off-topic!  :D

great post!

I'm not sure if he still uses the ts-9, but he posted on the official forum that he recorded with a presonus parametric EQW, and I found some live rig pics and he still got the EQ (that little blue one) on tour
he also said that he uses the Triple XXX fx loop extra gain stage as a booster (it's footswitchable)

what noise gate does he use?  :D
and what string gauge?
I've seem some close pictures that look like a .060 on the lower E  :?
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 08:06:54 PM by Eric Hellstyle »
Riff Raff, Mules, Black Dog, VHII's, Cold Sweat

MGheartGuitar

  • Junior Flyweight
  • *
  • Posts: 24
    • Me on MySpace
Re: WOW
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2009, 09:12:38 PM »
great post!

I'm not sure if he still uses the ts-9, but he posted on the official forum that he recorded with a presonus parametric EQW, and I found some live rig pics and he still got the EQ (that little blue one) on tour
he also said that he uses the Triple XXX fx loop extra gain stage as a booster (it's footswitchable)

what noise gate does he use?  :D
and what string gauge?
I've seem some close pictures that look like a .060 on the lower E  :?

Yeah, I vaguely remember the EQ pedal being there, though I can't be sure. Again this was 3 years ago. I do remember him taking a direct line out of a CS-2 into the PA for the clean intro for "No Love" and those are also blue so that might be what I'm thinking of.

About strings, I remember him and Lee (I installed a set of EMG's for Lee because their tech at the time wasn't really a big electronics guy) both used Dean Markley Blue Steel, and if I'm not mistaken they were 52-10, and they tuned to D.

..and, on the off-chance that Gary sees this and gets bummed: Gary, sorry for spilling the beans on your secrets!

To make up for it, a shameless plug:
EVERYONE who likes Exodus and plays guitar should pick up Gary's instructional DVD. This thing is an absolute must for Exodus fans, and anybody with an interest in Metal guitar! To quote another awesome guy/Bay Area crusher, "There's under-rated guitarists, and THEN there's Gary Holt." Craig Locicero - Forbidden/Spiralarms
Full Blown Chaos on MySpace

ericsabbath

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 4702
    • Colidium
Riff Raff, Mules, Black Dog, VHII's, Cold Sweat