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Twinfan

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2009, 01:25:48 PM »
Four conductor wiring can give you series, parallel and coil split options.  Coil taps have to be built in at the pickup winding stage, and would be a special order.

Hum cancelling is when the two coils of the humbucker are reverse wound and reverse magnetic polarity.  That's how humbuckers got their name, and how they were designed  ;)  If you split the humbucker to one coil only, it doesn't have the reverse coil to buck the hum.

That's why single coil pickups in Strats and Teles are prone to noise interference, and why you see single coil pickup sets offered with some coils RWRP (Reverse Wound Reverse Polarity) to cancel the hum when used in pairs  :)

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2009, 01:48:13 PM »
Vic, how about you start your own thread with all your questions on pickup mechanics, rather than hijack toms?

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2009, 04:38:39 PM »
I dont mind, I hijack enough threads myself so it doesnt matter haha

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2009, 04:43:12 PM »
*shrug* fair enough.

So we're thread-swingers now, with modern, "open" threads?

Cool with me. I too hijack many a thread, I suppose.

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2009, 06:50:02 PM »
Ahh, this is slightly unrelated, but not enough to warrant a new thread. Has anyone ever tried a warpig with chrome covers?
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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 07:04:04 PM »
Tom, I'd say having a split of some sort on the Pigs is a very good idea - I have a mini switch to tap the pair on my Warmoth build - original plan was to have a push-pull tone pot, but I had the hole for the volume control drilled in the wrong place, and my tech's idea for a save was the mini switch - it's worked great.

Tapping the Pigs is great for clean work, but also provides a very usable sound under gain - they have so much power, it's still pretty hot. It's a very worthwhile thing to do - I'd say if you didn't, you'd be missing out on a whole different aspect of the pickup.
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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2009, 07:13:25 PM »
Ahh, this is slightly unrelated, but not enough to warrant a new thread. Has anyone ever tried a warpig with chrome covers?

i don't think this can influence tone at all!
anyway they can be done, if you ask...
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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2009, 07:14:20 PM »
Ahh, this is slightly unrelated, but not enough to warrant a new thread. Has anyone ever tried a warpig with chrome covers?

I have a chrome C-Pig.

Theres nothing to tell. Its a C-Pig thats chrome.

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2009, 09:10:06 PM »
Ahh, this is slightly unrelated, but not enough to warrant a new thread. Has anyone ever tried a warpig with chrome covers?

I have a chrome C-Pig.

Theres nothing to tell. Its a C-Pig thats chrome.

With the two rows of allen bolts? I might try that. How's the 'pig in Alder and Ash?
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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2009, 09:38:26 PM »
I have a chrome C-Pig.
Theres nothing to tell. Its a C-Pig thats chrome.

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You MDV sometimes have some one-of-a-kind-logical-but-epic' inputs, just can't stop laughing when I read them !!
I think my favorite is this one :
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=43525385ca6baacb5feba181e2f17f7e&topic=14964.0
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AnyWAy : BACK TO TOPIC !!!  :shock:

I dont mind, I hijack enough threads myself so it doesnt matter haha

Thanks Tom and sorry again.

Well, first of all you are right : I know the french custom shop in Paris who put some WP in jazz guitars and I have to tell I was so impressed when I heard them. Awesome !  8)
(People around here are going to say the french jazzmen are crazy  :lol:)

BUT when I asked Tim for some WP he said it was Tooooo much powerfull for me (I play Rock, and heavy metal stuff), and because of their power they shouldn't be considered to be thaaaat much versatile. But I told him I wasn't looking to always dial the vol knob to find my sound...so they appeared to be way too beefy for me...

But if you like the idea to often play with the vol knob then why not go for it, even if I think that the split mode will open you more sound fields, and it is a shame to prevent you from them if you want to push the versality of the WP to its best (know everything about split/parralel/tap coils now !  :mrgreen:. )

And may I ask you why you jump from your beloved mule straight to the Warpig without any stop at some CR/HD/NB levels ? Have you already tried them ?

PS : your clip of welcome to the jungle is great, really. Congrat' !!


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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2009, 10:07:47 PM »
Dont tell me that, it'll just encourage me!

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2009, 10:18:41 PM »
sorry but just again can't stop :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway BACK TO TOPIC  :shock:

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wait...


*shrug* fair enough.

So we're thread-swingers now, with modern, "open" threads?

Cool with me. I too hijack many a thread, I suppose.

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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2009, 11:10:58 PM »
hahaha I think we need a MDV quotes thread (in the dressing room, not here)
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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2009, 11:19:36 PM »
With coil taps you could potentially have the most switchable unit available - standard full coil humbuckers - low out put humbuckers (half coil or some other split point), then you could split the humbuckers to give you full power single coil pickups or split the half humbuckers to give you lower power single coil pickups. Not done a wiring diagram but the switching would be fun!

There would be one condition - never ever ever try to play it live you would never know where you were up to!

In fact if you had a 3 humbucker job it could be the most versatile guitar ever made, 6 pots and two switches and the 3 volume pots would prolly need to be push pull as well for high and low power coils, standard 5 way switch for position select and the other toggle for single/humbuckers - gives 80 pickup modes.


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Re: How versatile are Warpigs?
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2009, 11:40:23 PM »
hahaha I think we need a MDV quotes thread (in the dressing room, not here)

I was already thinking of it...  :lol:

AnyWay BACK TO TOPIC  :shock:
(or you'll be under  "all the drama of thunder and lightning", where have I read that ?)   


In fact if you had a 3 humbucker job it could be the most versatile guitar ever made, 6 pots and two switches and the 3 volume pots would prolly need to be push pull as well for high and low power coils, standard 5 way switch for position select and the other toggle for single/humbuckers - gives 80 pickup mode.


I wasnt going to bother with splitting and stuff because I wanted to keep the look of the guitar quite simple so dont want switches all over the place, was just going to go with a single volume control and a 3-way toggle. I guess I could put a smaller toggle on for splitting though (I hated the push/pull I tried, so flimsy feeling), if that sounds good on the pigs?


I'm positive he will love the idea  :lol: