Painkiller set capable of these cleans?

[dheim]

i almost forgot...
guitar is a mahogany ibanez s recorded with a POD xt

mind that this way PKs sound way cleaner... with my live rig (compressor and tube amp) the bridge pickup sounds almost overdriven on clean channel if i strum a bit harder...
i realized there's some clipping in the full-bridge track, sorry...

[gwEm]

i would take the miracle man neck for the 'seemann' cleans, should balance with the painkiller too. its a high powered A5 neck, and nice for shred and cleans

agree that painkiller bridge would be the thing for main rammstein distortion tone.

although hard as mdv says, i do like the cleans of the painkiller bridge. regrettably, i've never tried the neck model.

[G9]

Wow thank you so much for the examples...  :D

The neck "almost split" sounds very nice... not quite as warm as I want, like in the clips I had, but it had an almost piano-like quality to it. Du Hast clips sounds awesome... puts me back into perspective of what these pickups are really for, metal. And those are some very nice mixes!

I think I might just go with a Painkiller Set, with the neck being used primarily for sweeps and metal soloing of that nature. Unless one of the following does a better job:

But for future reference, if I do want those cleans what humbucker should I get? I've been suggested the Holy Diver, Micacle Man, and Cold Sweat but I don't really know the difference between those.

[dheim]

i own a set of MMs but didn't install them yet. anyway from what i know gwem's advice is a bit strange... they're known to be the worst clean sounding BKPs!
holy diver neck is a bit scooped, very clear and percussive, so you should like it (i think it was me to suggest you the HD), cold sweat is warmer and smoother, it's a bit more like the PK than the HD...

[gwEm]

anyway from what i know gwem's advice is a bit strange... they're known to be the worst clean sounding BKPs!

my advice is often a bit strange :) (and sometimes wrong :( )

but its true the miracle man bridge clean isn't too good. neck is really nice though, IMO YMMV etc etc

edit: miracle man is my second favourite BKP set :) they've always worked in any guitar i've tried them in.
edit2: http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11354.0 my miracle man neck 'what pickup' post

[G9]

i own a set of MMs but didn't install them yet. anyway from what i know gwem's advice is a bit strange... they're known to be the worst clean sounding BKPs!
holy diver neck is a bit scooped, very clear and percussive, so you should like it (i think it was me to suggest you the HD), cold sweat is warmer and smoother, it's a bit more like the PK than the HD...

When it comes to tone (and many other things) I'm pretty new. What would you describe the clips I posted? I felt that those were pretty warm and smooth, but maybe I need to check out the dictionary.

[MDV]

I managed to replicate the tones quite faithfully with the bridge painkiller, both split and parallel (not series though, you've got no chance there), depending which part of the song, and my trusty poweballs clean channel.

If anything it was more piano-like, but no reverb.

[G9]

I see. Well, I think I'll just go with the Painkiller set. However, when I go to have the pickups installed, what do I ask for? I was going to go in and ask this for the following pickup switch positions:
1: Neck Humbucker Full
2: Neck Split
3: Neck/Humbucker Mix Split
4: Bridge Split
5: Bridge Humbucker Full

[MDV]

I'd get that but make sure you get parrallel on both of them on push pull pots as well. Youre gonna like that sound.

[G9]

I'd get that but make sure you get parrallel on both of them on push pull pots as well. Youre gonna like that sound.

Parallel for full humbucking? What makes that different from... "regular" humbucking?

And the push/pull pots... isn't that same functionality is switching from split/full as done with my switch configuration? I'm sorry, I'm really new when it comes to hardware.

I've attached what my prospective guitar has stock.

[MDV]

Well, parallel is full humbucking, like series, wires the coils in parralel, so they have a much lower net resistance (1/4 as much as series), a much more open tone, lots more highs, dynamics and clarity.

Do it on both. You shall not be displeased you did.

[G9]

Well, parallel is full humbucking, like series, wires the coils in parralel, so they have a much lower net resistance (1/4 as much as series), a much more open tone, lots more highs, dynamics and clarity.

Do it on both. You shall not be displeased you did.

Read a little about it here and here... it seems that parallel is affiliated with a quieter, "less hot" tone. That might be good when I go into split for the cleans, but for the majority of my work it might not be. Granted, some of the hum gets canceled out but still.

[MDV]

All the hum is cancelled, its a fully humbucking config.
 
I find it difficult to understand how you can pass judgment on something you've never heard. Dont knock it till you've tried it!

[G9]

All the hum is cancelled, its a fully humbucking config.
 
I find it difficult to understand how you can pass judgment on something you've never heard. Dont knock it till you've tried it!

I just gave it a try on my S7320 that just came in... gotta say that I didn't notice hotter output from series, but did notice the hum cancellation in parallel. Still, I'd like more opinions on this matter, not that yours is invalid, I just like having numerous sources.

[MDV]

Those pickups are the same as was on my 7321 - they're dreadfull. Pitifull difference between even bridge and neck. This is another ball game entirely ;)