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Lew

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It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« on: May 19, 2009, 10:57:23 PM »
Well! After a pretty poor experience with the Briggs (don't ask lol), I went back and took this badboy instead. Playability is superb and the singles coils are great. The bridge 'bucker is a bit pokey though, I'll probably change it for a bkp if I can't tame it!
The top is cool as hell, there's so many things happening on it and all understated at the same time.

Lots of fun things on the guitar - ball bearing rather knife point trem and no trussrod :o :o


« Last Edit: May 23, 2009, 10:44:22 PM by Lew!! »

Ian Price

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 11:15:24 PM »
Good stuff Lew - a little pointy for my liking but nice all the same. Don't Vigier use graphite to strengthen the neck?
I think I hate being indecisive.

Lew

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 11:19:20 PM »
Carbon fibre I think mate, there's a black skunk stripe on the back of the neck.

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 11:24:58 PM »
Well! After a pretty poor experience with the Briggs (don't ask lol), I went back and took this badboy instead.

No, go on, I have to ask!  What happened?

(The Vigier is very nice though  :D )
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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 11:26:53 PM »
The Vigier is great. Doesn't the Excalibur have an active tone circuit for the bridge pup?

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 11:42:01 PM »
vigiers are very nice, great score. a local shop became a dealer a while back, i tried a bunch of them. I wasn't 100% fussed on the pickups, and i've been kinda spoiled with legra (knowing i can get exactly what i want for the same price if not less, as long as i'm willing to wait), but if i were to buy an off-the-shelf guitar around that price, Vigier would be pretty high up my list. :)

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2009, 11:54:57 PM »
Yes this is one-stunning-french-guitar-design-with-high-class-materials !

So here I am : COCORICO   ^^  More seriously this is a very nice guitar, congrat' !

Another very good French company is LAG (played by Phil Campbell and Chris Georges, just to name them !).

champagne and wine !  :drink:


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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2009, 11:56:19 PM »
Awesome top on that! I really dig Vigiers, congrats!

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2009, 01:57:59 AM »
Well! After a pretty poor experience with the Briggs (don't ask lol), I went back and took this badboy instead.

No, go on, I have to ask!  What happened?

(The Vigier is very nice though  :D )

I'd probably be considered anal but... I was sold it as a new guitar and was told the dings and scratches happened in the shop. I contacted Briggs himself and was informed it had been stolen - it wasn't the end of the world but I was a bit miffed I didn't get the story when I'd dropped 2 big ones on it.
It came to pass that it had in fact been M.I.A for anything up to a year (remember it was sold as a new guitar)... anyway when I restrung it the nut poped off the guitar, argh!
The tail piece studs were really lose as well and with tension on it leaned forward a fair bit.
It wouldn't stay in tune at all it just kept dropping half a tone with the lightest use - I restrung it again as I had alot of winds on the posts and thought that my bad stringing might be the issue. But again it still wouldn't stay in tune, a few strums and it would drop half a tone. I was just peed off at this point and cut my losses. The issues were def set-up/condition issues, Briggs make wicked sick guitars.

The shop were good about it though and took it back with out much bother, they were pretty eager to repair it but that wasn't working for me.

Probably all sounds a bit Alan Partridge :lol: but I expect certain things at this price point.

The Vigier is great. Doesn't the Excalibur have an active tone circuit for the bridge pup?

I don't know, does it? There's no battery compartment... would it have that?

I wasn't 100% fussed on the pickups

Ye I bought it thinking that the bridge pickup could maybe do with a replacement when I get round to it, it'sok for high gain but its really pokey, not a big deal though. The guitar overall has a really nice tight midrange voice maybe because the necks a teeny bit longer than a Fender.
 
It has a really nice tight, mid-rangey articulate voice, maybe due to the slightly longer than Fender scale.
I played a Hamer Talledaga and Mon Elite there too and was really dissapointed with them they both had a really wooly muffled tone, shame as I've really loved the Hamers I've owned before.

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 04:00:29 AM »
Bah. how do these shopkeepers get away with this? we had a clarinet that was stolen that i chased through town and to a pawn shop that i had to sell at cost price to get it finally out of the store. and you're telling me someone managed to sell you a guitar that was stolen and returned? ;)

nice catch though, the vigiers are rockin. with that flame maple and and graphite reinforcement, a truss rod is useless. if you care for it properly that is!
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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2009, 06:37:52 AM »
A great looking guitar! I almost bought a second-hand Vigier at the end of last year, but decided to go the custom route. I bet that neck's about as stable as it gets.

My strat actually has a neck too that doesn't have a truss rod :) And it's a '62 Fender profile, so it's on the slimmer side too. A really thick and rigid rosewood fretboard on top of the maple neck, and a couple of ebony bars inside stiffening it even more..

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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2009, 08:03:14 AM »
Gorgeous guitar, Vigier are some of my fave guitars up there with Black Machines etc, if I was to buy a guitar off the shelf, there's no question what it would be.
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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2009, 09:14:03 AM »
Probably all sounds a bit Alan Partridge :lol: but I expect certain things at this price point.

That's the key thing, if you were buying it used and knowing the "issues" in advance, it would be fair enough.  But if you're buying it as "new" - for a lot of money - you're entitled to expect perfection, or something close to it.
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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2009, 09:34:22 AM »
Great buy, I am a Vigier enthusiast and don't own one lol.

Lot's of lovely innovations on these that all make sense.

Sure you will enjoy that.


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Re: It's french and doesn't have a trussrod!
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2009, 12:42:13 PM »
with that flame maple and and graphite reinforcement, a truss rod is useless.

i am really struggling with that statement, it strikes me as an oxymoron :?  but then i always really struggle with the idea of having no truss rod because of teh set-up implications, so i would really struggle with having no truss rod on a flamed maple neck (because flamed maple is less stable)

i am all for graphite reinforcement, thats why most of my necks get two bars either side of the two way truss rod (and the truss rod does work as it should).

having said that, i really like vigiers and there system does seem to work.  they are using more graphite:wood than i do.  so this isnt meant to be negative, just thinking out loud

i really like the guitar, the maple top is stunning