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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 12:10:21 AM »
considering GM let the Greeny LP go as he liked this 'other' 59 LP better says alot - it must be a KILLER axe.

I think GM should keep that 59 under lock and key in old blighty - Montrose can whistle for it  :lol:

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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 12:25:15 AM »
I reckon Gary should just deck him

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Love it!

Hmmm, I'm not sure about that, I'm a Montrose fan....  :?

But it seems a bit "unfair" bringing this case, somehow.  If RM had been searching so hard, you'd have thought someone would have brought GM's guitar to his attention without it taking 35+ years....
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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 09:29:18 AM »
According to the Les Paul forum, it was quite well known where the guitar was.  Tom Whittrock over there (some big expert) even owned it himself for a while.

I wonder if he knew it was stolen from Montrose and that's why he sold it?????

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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 07:19:33 PM »
considering GM let the Greeny LP go as he liked this 'other' 59 LP better says alot - it must be a KILLER axe.

I think GM should keep that 59 under lock and key in old blighty - Montrose can whistle for it  :lol:

I think he had to sell it as he hurt his hand and had to cover the cost of a load of cancelled gigs that his insurance wouldn't stump up for. When it came to 59s he had 2 and the Greeny would fetch more

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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2009, 02:31:50 AM »
considering GM let the Greeny LP go as he liked this 'other' 59 LP better says alot - it must be a KILLER axe.

I think GM should keep that 59 under lock and key in old blighty - Montrose can whistle for it  :lol:

I think he had to sell it as he hurt his hand and had to cover the cost of a load of cancelled gigs that his insurance wouldn't stump up for. When it came to 59s he had 2 and the Greeny would fetch more

yep, I read that too, but I also read that he preferred the tone of the 59 he kept (the one Montrose now wants back).


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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2009, 08:55:05 AM »
It's tough when you have to wonder which 59 to sell to pay the bills
We've all been there.

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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2009, 10:50:02 AM »
if the serial number was known, why wasnt it brought to his attention sooner? tthe whole things smells like bullshiteeee

hahahah... i love this sentence: "the guitar was in the collection of an English guitar player"  ... like they couldnt just say gary has it
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2009, 12:11:02 PM »
if the serial number was known, why wasnt it brought to his attention sooner? tthe whole things smells like bullshiteeeeeeee

hahahah... i love this sentence: "the guitar was in the collection of an English guitar player"  ... like they couldnt just say gary has it

I don't think they had the serial number to begin with, they were just going by photos (there's a lesson for us all! :wink: )

The investigator, Indelicato, is shown a matching photo at a guitar show, and that's where he gets the "English guitar player" story.  At that point, they don't know who it is (not that Moore's English anyway!  :P ).  He then finds another picture with the serial number and tracks that to Gary Moore via a website posting.  "With that posting Mr. Indelicato finally had a name: Gary Moore."
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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2009, 04:18:47 AM »
It's tough when you have to wonder which 59 to sell to pay the bills
We've all been there.


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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2009, 04:40:26 PM »
if the serial number was known, why wasnt it brought to his attention sooner? tthe whole things smells like bullshiteeeeeeeeee

hahahah... i love this sentence: "the guitar was in the collection of an English guitar player"  ... like they couldnt just say gary has it

I don't think they had the serial number to begin with, they were just going by photos (there's a lesson for us all! :wink: )

The investigator, Indelicato, is shown a matching photo at a guitar show, and that's where he gets the "English guitar player" story.  At that point, they don't know who it is (not that Moore's English anyway!  :P ).  He then finds another picture with the serial number and tracks that to Gary Moore via a website posting.  "With that posting Mr. Indelicato finally had a name: Gary Moore."

k.. i still dont think he has a case. if the report was filed with the serial number, then yes. it would be THE guitar.. but based on a photo, he may or may not have found somewhere (a photo with which the guitar with the 922etc.. serial number matches) is dumb

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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2009, 04:51:25 PM »
It's a really interesting and tough case.  As a guitarist, I can say they're the same guitar knowing about the figure and flame being unique.  In a court of law, could a good lawyer argue otherwise???

The main issue is whether US law applies to the gutar and owner in the UK.  In the UK, Gary owns the guitar quite legally, even if it was proven to be a previously stolen item.

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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2009, 05:16:47 PM »
Yeah, it doesn't sound like there's really any argument about it being the same guitar, it's all about which laws apply.
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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2009, 10:29:03 PM »
so long as GM doesn't take it on a US tour he'll be alright.


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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2009, 01:14:31 PM »
What's that story in the Old Testament? er, King Solomon or something...

Get the two of them in a room with the guitar... and a bloke with a big axe... (oh yeah, and me)

"The fairest outcome will be if you both get half..."

The one that goes "omigod - don't do that! He can have it, just don't break it..." is the one who should take it home. Simple! :D

Of course, if neither of them say that, then neither of them deserve it...
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Re: Check this out: court case against Gary Moore!
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2009, 08:53:46 PM »
Hmm, interesting. Dunno what this one's got in terms of legal legs, but it'll be interesting to find out if it ever goes to trial.
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