Half stack / Full stack

[ailean]

If you have the room go for it.

For anyone who has seen Rich & Sue's flat that is quite amusing.

Seriously Rich, I think the idea of a full stack in your place is madness.

Stacks go up, not out, so space is no diffent to a 4x12 :D And I didn't let a little thing like madness stop us getting the VH4, besides the walls are softer if you get certified.

morgasm I will certainly let you know how the 4x12 works out.

[ailean]

Well I gigged yesterday with a small 2x12, whilst the other guitarist used a full stack. My tone was much bigger/more cutting and just overall sounded better. Then again the cabs he was using were those marshall avt ones with stock speakers whilst mines a well constructed cab with good speakers.. god knows! If that was anything to go by though, then a full stack is totally pointless and not worth the hassle when you can fill the same room with a 2x12..

Interesting... very interesting. Thanks tom.

I guess I need to wait and see how the 4x12 works out when it turns up!

[_tom_]

Yeah I would like to give a 4x12 a go as well. The only ones I've tried are cheap ones though which really put me off, their sound dispersion is really bad. I think most of that might be because its closed back though whereas I'm used to using an open back whenever I'm with a band..

[Antag]

<insert dirty minded comments as required>.

This situation is just begging for a nice big Koch...


sorry :)

[Twinfan]

I've had a full stack in my living room, but never gigged it.  WAAAAAAAY too much for a pub band in both size and image.  You look like a small c*cked w*anker.

In 'DC I use a half stack, and in Doppelganger a 2x12.  I could gig a 2x12 with 'DC quite happily and have no problem with sound.  The only way I would use a full stack in the future would be if a) I could justify the expense and b) I was playing stadiums.  There's no reason to have one otherwise.  So I won't be having one.

Another importatnt thing to think about is the ohm ratings of cabs.  In a full stack, you need to run your amp at 8 ohms (if you're running two 16 ohm cabs).  I prefer the sound of my amps running at 16ohms so a signle 4x12 or 2x12 sounds better to me.

Having said all that. a full stack is something you have to play through at least once in your life though.........

[hamfist]

If you have the room go for it.

For anyone who has seen Rich & Sue's flat that is quite amusing.

Seriously Rich, I think the idea of a full stack in your place is madness.

Stacks go up, not out, so space is no diffent to a 4x12 :D And I didn't let a little thing like madness stop us getting the VH4, besides the walls are softer if you get certified.

I've been on the phone to the men in white coats, and they WILL be coming round to see you both first thing in the morning.

[Dmoney]

i have two angled cabs as a full stack in my room, but i only play through the top cab.

when we play live i use one cab and our other guitarist the other. sometimes if there are a lot of cabs on stage ill use two 4x12's but use them side by side.

I think two 4x12's side by side.

[JDC]

slightly off topic but, you know how a 2x12 and a 4x12 sound different, if you made a 2x12 that was more the size of a 4x12, how close would it sound?

[Twinfan]

Not that close - sound pressure levels in the cab make a big difference.  It's all to do with the number of speakers, the space inside and how the air behaves....

[murraymurray]

I've played through a full stack a few times, dont really enjoy it since it cranks way too much noise straight into my face.
1 cab either side of the stage is sweet if your playing in a 1 guitar band as said previously, but if its going through FOH again its sorta irrelevant. other times when ive used 2 cabs gigging is when weve been playing without a good PA so no drum foldbacks, just point a whole cab at our drummer so he can hear whats going on a lot better

[morgasm]

tom, you speak the truth but do not forget this man will be getting diezel cabs, which are very fine cabs indeed with very good speakers regardless of which he chooses (if he does choose to...)
i think that gig experience was more down to the quality of the gear rather than "stack vs 2x12" as you pointed out.
morgan

[ailean]

I've been on the phone to the men in white coats, and they WILL be coming round to see you both first thing in the morning.

They're not here yet...  :D

Interesting debate. I very much agree with the 'everyone should try it once' becuase I want to :), and I'm married so I don't care how big people think my privates are.

Changing the speakers in the Orange might be the way forward for now.

[Muttley]

I have a half stack, which is lovely, but I would love to try a full stack, or preferably 2 so I can have them running in stereo.  ;)

[keith]

Not loud enough until you have 6 times one and a half stacks side by side :D



In all seriousness, if you can transport all the stuff then why not. Half stack is already louder than needed why not go the extra mile for fuller sound? In pubs and stuff the ceiling might not be high enough though. Actually, having a 4x12 on each side of the stage would be cool.

That's a nice small rig........ not Mr. Malmsteens by any chance?

keith

[Will]

I'm sure thats AC/DC