Half stack / Full stack

[JDC]

Not loud enough until you have 6 times one and a half stacks side by side :D

In all seriousness, if you can transport all the stuff then why not. Half stack is already louder than needed why not go the extra mile for fuller sound? In pubs and stuff the ceiling might not be high enough though. Actually, having a 4x12 on each side of the stage would be cool.

That's a nice small rig........ not Mr. Malmsteens by any chance?

keith

I was thinking that literally 2 seconds before I read that, doesn't he usually run some other kind of Marshall at the same time? I've got some vague memory of a youtube video involving Yngwie and at least 2 types of Marshall at some festival

[Pete24v]

  WAAAAAAAY too much for a pub band in both size and image.  You look like a small c*cked w*anker.

but you'll feel like a king  8)

[_tom_]

haha I would feel like a complete tit walking into a pub with a full stack. Even a half stack is a bit excessive.

[Pete24v]

i suppose my blue Matamp stack is only made up of a pair of 2x12's... it looks great, sounds great and makes me feel great... yes i probably have a small c--k!

[Dmoney]

haha I would feel like a complete tit walking into a pub with a full stack. Even a half stack is a bit excessive.

It's rare i'll use anything smaller than a 4x12 regardless of the size of venue. if the venue is too small, oh well!

[gwEm]

sansamp direct into front of house thank you very much! thats a 0x12 i guess :) never brought a cab to a gig in my life, though i do prefer recording with one. i never understood how non-modeller guitarists put up with carrying all their gear in vans etc.

edit: having said that - if i ever become uber-famous, i want the malmsteen rig assembled by my team of crack roadies :)

[_tom_]

It's rare i'll use anything smaller than a 4x12 regardless of the size of venue. if the venue is too small, oh well!

They do look much cooler than a 2x12, definitely :)

I think it might just be the specific 4x12s I've tried, but they just sucked compared to my 2x12 with their projection. I wouldnt mind trying one of those budda 4x12 cabs with the top half as open back but they're really expensive :(

[Denim n Leather]

4x12s can be 'beamy', which is why a full stack gives you much more projection. It also greatly improves the dynamics of your rig. Even though the potential to move a lot more air is there, it's not necessarily over the top compared to a half stack.

All decent 4x12s are very heavy, however.

Though I own multiple 4x12 cabinets, for most gigs, I use a single 4x12. However, that's due to limitations on my listening space, not necessarily on venue size.

[Dmoney]

i prefer angled 4x12's to straight for my own listening ease. i can be stood right up against a cab, which is a nightmare. the beamy characteristic doesnt help in that situation.

[Denim n Leather]

Dmoney, you might wanna try setting your angled cab on its side, too. That's a trick a few friends of mine use, and they are well pleased with the results.

[Dmoney]

that is a good trick. at home i my cabs set as a full stack, but cos they are both angled and on wheels i set the top half on its side and only play through the top half. (im too lazy to wire the bottom and dig out the 8ohm hotplate)

i find that if a venue is big enough to allow me to move around and go way out of the projection of the cab, then the venue probably has monitors. otherwise i find a good spot and stay still. our singer is pretty athletic and if i get in the way i kiss goodbye to my tuning (pegs wrapped up in mic cable), pedals (cables tangled around our singer and dragged across the venue) and my guitar (getting it hit with a mic). i have to be on guard.

that sounds like a good trick though and one ill remember for sure!

[Johnny Mac]

If you want a full stack get one! You have the blessing of your Mrs  :D I've got a small flat but do manage to krank my Koch in it when i feel the need...ahem.

You should book yourselves some studio time with your new amp and cabs, when you get them. You will love it! I ran my Koch flat out at a jam once, I put the amp over one side of the room, which was very big. The harmonic feedback you get is unreal.  :twisted:

[_tom_]

Ben, what does putting the cab on its side do? Just give a bit more bass response as its touching the floor rather than casters?

[ailean]

If you want a full stack get one! You have the blessing of your Mrs  :D I've got a small flat but do manage to krank my Koch in it when i feel the need...ahem.

You should book yourselves some studio time with your new amp and cabs, when you get them. You will love it! I ran my Koch flat out at a jam once, I put the amp over one side of the room, which was very big. The harmonic feedback you get is unreal.  :twisted:

Yeah, there are some practice rooms not far from me. I may well have to book a session :)

I think I'll swap my Orange 16ohm 4x12 for a Diezel 8ohm 4x12 at some stage. I'm in no rush, but as I'm going to have 2 4x12 cabs it seems daft not to be able to run them as a full stack. I could swap the cones in the Orange for 8ohm, but I think I'll end up getting the Diezel cab, the new generation are supposed to be really good.

I'm NEVER going to play live, so I don't care about what others think of me, all I'm interested in is filling my lounge with the biggest, most awsome sound I can.

[Johnny Mac]

If you want a full stack get one! You have the blessing of your Mrs  :D I've got a small flat but do manage to krank my Koch in it when i feel the need...ahem.

You should book yourselves some studio time with your new amp and cabs, when you get them. You will love it! I ran my Koch flat out at a jam once, I put the amp over one side of the room, which was very big. The harmonic feedback you get is unreal.  :twisted:

Yeah, there are some practice rooms not far from me. I may well have to book a session :)

I think I'll swap my Orange 16ohm 4x12 for a Diezel 8ohm 4x12 at some stage. I'm in no rush, but as I'm going to have 2 4x12 cabs it seems daft not to be able to run them as a full stack. I could swap the cones in the Orange for 8ohm, but I think I'll end up getting the Diezel cab, the new generation are supposed to be really good.

I'm NEVER going to play live, so I don't care about what others think of me, all I'm interested in is filling my lounge with the biggest, most awsome sound I can.

:D That's the spirit!!  :lol: I ran my amp flat out into the 4ohm jack at a few jams in that big room i mentioned, its so loud beyond anything I can describe. Your internal organs vibrate.
Your lounge will look very cool with a full stack Diezel amp in there!  8) If we can organise another BKP meet you should come along with it.  :D

Have a look at the Koch cab specs, they brand their own speakers but I believe they're made by Jenson http://www.koch-amps.com/koch/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17&Itemid=12