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ailean

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This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« on: May 30, 2009, 05:12:52 PM »
I knew nothing about MIDI.

This afternoon Sue found a BOSS DR670 in our local Cash Converters for £90. Score 1.

We realised it had a midi connector, and then I remembered that my EMU 0404 has a midi port, hmmm... aquired a midi cable (the hardest part).

Spent 20 minutes, not knowing what the hell to do with any of the software, thinking Guitar Pro can't control a midi device, playing with CakeWalk, going back to GP to export a midi file, realising it can control a midi device and I had been looking in the wrong place (it's right there on screen the whole time, while I wasted my time in the menus), setting some guessed settings, and, we have drum and bass playing on the stereo.

Result!

I'm really impressed that a complete novice like me can get it making noises in 20 minutes.

The sound from the 670 is pretty good too.
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2009, 06:27:34 PM »
You can also get Guitar Pro to change the channels on your VH4 via MIDI, so you can play and have the channels change at the correct point in the song :)
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 06:30:58 PM »
*L* used to love messing with my fcb1010..any of the things like amplitube, revalver etc and my pod..or for weirder had my fcb1010 as my bass pedals for my b4 vst
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2009, 06:40:49 PM »
Not bad for a protocol that has been invented in 1981, ay?

Is there ANY standard (other than normal channel switching) that is still in use and has been around for more than even 10 years?

I had tape data, floppys, streaming tape, RS232, SCSI, SCSIII stuff etc ... can you actually today still find SCSI disks to run in a K2000 for example?
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 08:24:45 PM »
Quote from: Oli on May 30, 2009, 06:27:34 PM
You can also get Guitar Pro to change the channels on your VH4 via MIDI, so you can play and have the channels change at the correct point in the song :)

How?  :)

Quote from: hunter on May 30, 2009, 06:40:49 PM
Not bad for a protocol that has been invented in 1981, ay?

Is there ANY standard (other than normal channel switching) that is still in use and has been around for more than even 10 years?

I had tape data, floppys, streaming tape, RS232, SCSI, SCSIII stuff etc ... can you actually today still find SCSI disks to run in a K2000 for example?

Yeah I'm pretty impressed I have to say, I'm sure it can get WAYYY complicated, but it's been very well thought out.

If anyone knows how to bulk download a track to the 670 memory from Guitar Pro, Sonar, or cakewalk please let me know!
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2009, 08:29:05 PM »
er does it have savable memory..if not just play via midi through the 670
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2009, 08:31:01 PM »
There is stuff in the manual about putting it in bulk receive / transmit mode, so I'm assuming so!
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2009, 08:32:11 PM »
mmm so prob need a prog inbetween..do they make one
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2009, 08:33:47 PM »
I'm reasonably sure Sonar LE or Cakewalk can do a bulk send, I just need to figure out how :) (I could be wrong, it happens a lot)
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 08:34:29 PM »
Quote from: hunter on May 30, 2009, 06:40:49 PM
Not bad for a protocol that has been invented in 1981, ay?

Is there ANY standard (other than normal channel switching) that is still in use and has been around for more than even 10 years?

I had tape data, floppys, streaming tape, RS232, SCSI, SCSIII stuff etc ... can you actually today still find SCSI disks to run in a K2000 for example?
That is SCARY ... precisely what I was thinking!

In terms of machine languages, MIDI is neaderathal, which is probably why guitarists will never let it go!! LOL PDT_008
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2009, 08:40:10 PM »
not up on them 2 and been a while using bulk send etc..sysx etc
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2009, 09:01:22 PM »
Quote from: Denim n Leather on May 30, 2009, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: hunter on May 30, 2009, 06:40:49 PM
Not bad for a protocol that has been invented in 1981, ay?

Is there ANY standard (other than normal channel switching) that is still in use and has been around for more than even 10 years?

I had tape data, floppys, streaming tape, RS232, SCSI, SCSIII stuff etc ... can you actually today still find SCSI disks to run in a K2000 for example?
That is SCARY ... precisely what I was thinking!

In terms of machine languages, MIDI is neaderathal, which is probably why guitarists will never let it go!! LOL PDT_008

Well the major issue with MIDI is that it's a serial stream of data.

Means if you work with controllers and Sysex data while hitting a chord on a keyboard, it can come out as an arpeggio.
That's actually why people are still using analog sequencers, triggering sound generators with CV, because it's fast and tight. And I gotta admit, those Kraftwerk beats are really sharp and on the 12.
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2009, 09:06:53 PM »
Quote from: ailean on May 30, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
Quote from: Oli on May 30, 2009, 06:27:34 PM
You can also get Guitar Pro to change the channels on your VH4 via MIDI, so you can play and have the channels change at the correct point in the song :)

How?  :)
Come on Oli, give a nice long explanation, I want to hear too.
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2009, 09:22:11 PM »
Quote from: sgmypod on May 30, 2009, 08:32:11 PM
mmm so prob need a prog inbetween..do they make one

Great free MIDI utility here: http://www.midiox.com/

Useful for doing sysex dumps, etc.  :)
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Re: This MIDI stuff is pretty good isn't it.
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2009, 09:30:39 PM »
oh yeah used that with my fcb1010 thinkin about it..so he would have to save the bulk dump files in system exclusive format then send via this prog
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