Any love for BC Rich??

[Alex]

I was personally speaking for the newer models. Others here are right, BC Rich had a lot of problems in the past with cheap and not very good guitars. The current Korean guitars are really nice and I believe that Mockingbirg, alond with the more expensive BC Rich exotics and supremes, are also made in Korea.

[psy]

Aye, I think 2 of my NJ's are Korean & they're really nice.  I think the only really dodgy ones they had out a few years back were those horrid looking 'body art' models.

[Dr. Vic]

It seems the Mokingbird Exotic classic is (was) available with 2 different finishes :

- a spalted maple top on a Mahogany body :
http://www.bcrich.com/Mockingbird_exotic_classic.asp

- a Koa top on a nato body :
http://www.dcmusicstore.com/BC-Rich-Exotic-Classic-Mockingbird

Which one do you expect to sound best ? Having discussed on another topic here about the effect of spalted maple I am not expecting it to sound that good, but I've no idea of how does nato / Koa sound ?

I knew because of the price that these guitars aren't US made, but didn't know they were made in korea though.. :?

and btw what are the (last) mockingbird models made in the US ?

[psy]

As far as I know Nato is similar (but cheaper) to Mahogany.  I think with them being maple through necks that'll be the biggest influence on the sound.  Another thing to look out for is the scale length.  All the current models only seem to be 24 5/8" scale, some of the older ones are 25 1/2"

[Ratrod]

A bit of confusement over the body wood here.

AFAIK all of them are made from Eastern (oriental) mahogany that is also known as nato.

The top of those guitars makes no difference at all. It's just a thin veneer.

[Dr. Vic]

hum thanks for the input ratrod ! So you seem to say it is just about looking, right?

And do you know what are the Mockingbird models still made in the US ?

[Ratrod]

Click here: http://www.bcrich.com/handcrafted/hand.php

You'll need something for the drooling. These are not cheap by any means.

[noodleplugerine]

Click here: http://www.bcrich.com/handcrafted/hand.php

You'll need something for the drooling. These are not cheap by any means.

Nor are they particularly drool-worthy..

[Sifu Ben]

Yeah, you can basically forget about a US BC Rich unless you've got a couple of grand (or more) knocking around.
 The exotic classic is pretty cheap for a Korean made guitar of that standard. Most at that price point are Chinese/Vietnamese/Indonesian.

[Dr. Vic]

Now I see it pretty well :
Mockingbird ST :    900 $
Mockingbird SL : 4 500 $ (on your link)

Quite not the same story....

Anyway this link seem to refer to the BC Rcich custom shop. Does that mean all the stock model are made outside the US and only the custom orders are built in the US, for that price ?


As for the exotic classic, I knew the japanese were better than the other asian productions, but what difference is there between korean, chinese and indonesian productions ?

[Sifu Ben]

Korean instruments these days are mostly not bad. The days when they were simply cheap rubbish have largely passed, as China and SE Asia have taken over (by virtue of being cheaper), in the same way that Korea took over from Japan 15 years ago when they started getting better and more expensive.
 High end Korean guitars now can cost over a grand, and many pro players use korean made instruments.
 Of course there are still some lower end models, but like I said, most of that work has moved elsewhere.

[Sifu Ben]

I should qualify that before someone jumps in and starts slagging me off. They're not up to US or upper end Japanese standard, but they're certainly good value for money and you can get a decent player for not much.

[Ratrod]

Why not have one built by Feline?

Here's a couple of Warlocks he made.





http://www.felineguitars.com/spec_sheets/Kachana%20Wizard.htm

[Philly Q]

Now I see it pretty well :
Mockingbird ST :    900 $
Mockingbird SL : 4 500 $ (on your link)

I think that's a problem BC Rich have as a brand.  I may have this wrong, but they seem to have loads of models in the budget to lower-middle price brackets, then there's a HUGE price jump to the US models - and they don't seem to build many of them anyway.

They need a range that's equivalent to the Fender American Standards or Gibson's production models, around the £1,000 mark maybe.   

[Dr. Vic]

They need a range that's equivalent to the Fender American Standards or Gibson's production models, around the £1,000 mark maybe.  

I agree with that !

Why not have one built by Feline?

Here's a couple of Warlocks he made.
http://www.felineguitars.com/spec_sheets/Kachana%20Wizard.htm[/url]

As for me, the only one BC rich I like is the mockingbird. I wish I had a US one....  :(