New pickups for a les paul?

[SidewinderINC]

Hi all,

I've been pondering bare knuckles for about 2 years now - and it's time to buy some, I've found my Burny Les Paul's pickups are feeding really badly at high volume on any amp, at any height. Tried rewiring the guitar to no avail.


I play a lot of different things, mostly glam rock like Poison & Motley crue, through to more modern agressive rock like Buckcherry / Black stone cherry type things.


I was originally set on a calibrated set of Holy Divers, but I think that may be too much for what I play?

At the moment I'm also in a KISS tribute band, so something that would be suitable for playing in that would be ideal hehe.

Thanks a lot :)

Matt.

[ericsabbath]

ask tim for the old ceramic version of the holy diver

[sebby123]

Cold sweat's would be a good way to go.
Vintage modern type of feel.
Tight, amazingly clear, thick! and very transparent so it lets the guitar do the talking.

[shaman]

I am a faithful follower of the Rebel Yell-have it in LP Standard-awesome cleans,very flexible-from vintage Kossoff to modern tones al SStevens,etc...a great all 'rounder IMO-i also dig Nailbombs...a little "darker"...a friend has BDogs..it would sound great as well...oh, the list goes on..>!

[syr2012]

ask tim for the old ceramic version of the holy diver

What's the old HD like in comparison to the new one?

[ericsabbath]

ask tim for the old ceramic version of the holy diver

What's the old HD like in comparison to the new one?

the new one is JB based (alnico 5, 16k)
the old one was probably based on the dimarzio super distortion (ceramic, 13.5k)

[JMP2203]

ask tim for the old ceramic version of the holy diver

Tim told me he do not do the ceramic version of the holydriver.

[shaman]

there is some crossover between the old HD and the rebels...scroll down a bit on this thread...

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16484.0

[SidewinderINC]

Hmm, I've got a pair of Dimarzio Super Distortions here from 1978 (I think that's the year my Westbury was made) that I like the sound of but I find them a bit muddy.

From that thread linked above I quite like the sound of the Rebel Yells.

[jonthebass]

My 2p's worth is this:
What about lower output 'buckers, i.e. Stormy Monday, and cranking the Master Volume up a notch?
Can work wonders for that big rock sound in my experience... 

[LP_LOVER]

SidewinderINC:

What kind of Les Paul do you have?

In general the Custom has a 'harder' attack to the notes with more edge/cut. The Standard is more rounded with less sharp attack.

The tone also depends on whether the guitar is a solid body, weight relieved body or chambered body...the weight plays a part too.

I LOVE the Cold Sweats in my 80's Custom, but I wouldn't put them in my chambered Standard Faded. It's not easy to give advice without knowing anything about your Les Paul.

I think you need some vintage/hot pickups (like VH2s or Black Dogs).

[SidewinderINC]

SidewinderINC:

What kind of Les Paul do you have?

In general the Custom has a 'harder' attack to the notes with more edge/cut. The Standard is more rounded with less sharp attack.

The tone also depends on whether the guitar is a solid body, weight relieved body or chambered body...the weight plays a part too.

I LOVE the Cold Sweats in my 80's Custom, but I wouldn't put them in my chambered Standard Faded. It's not easy to give advice without knowing anything about your Les Paul.

I think you need some vintage/hot pickups (like VH2s or Black Dogs).

It's a Burny Les Paul Custom, mahogany body, weighing in at about 9.5lbs.

Sorry for missing off that info :)

[shaman]

SidewinderINC:

What kind of Les Paul do you have?

In general the Custom has a 'harder' attack to the notes with more edge/cut. The Standard is more rounded with less sharp attack.

..in my LPC, I had to go with nbombs to tame the brightness-i tried Mules at first, but it was too much treble/cut-prob. would have worked with different pots/a treble tamer kit, but I had just bought custom 500 lefty pots from RS,so now I have a set of Mules that can be dropped into my other LP Standards-I wonder if a VHII would be too bright as well??

[LP_LOVER]

SidewinderINC:

Nice that you have a Custom. What about Black Dogs? They can tame the brightness and have a great bite/snarl to them. Awesome for classic hardrock.

Shaman:

The Mules were also too trebly and thin in my LPC, especially in the bridge position. I guess the VH2 would be too bright as well...

[SidewinderINC]

http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7262&highlight=black+dog

After hearing this, I think the Black Dogs are in the running as they sound sweet as hell, but a little too vintage for what I'm after.

http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3433&highlight=rebel+yell

And after hearing this I think I'm 100% sold on them :D Holy hell that's big sound!