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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2009, 07:39:23 PM »
...so for not much extra cost I have a flexible rig of 2 half stacks or a full stack, with complementary drivers in each cab...

And you need this 'flexible rig of 2 half stacks or a full stack' for your living room, right?  Two smaller combos wouldn't be more useful and toneful at the volumes we're talking about?

I mean, I rehearse in a twin guitar rock covers band using a 30w combo and a couple of pedals!  My home amp is a power-scaled 20w Fender Deluxe.

I just have no comprehension of why you'd want to have two half stacks at home to play though  :?

Dave, you have more guitars than many guitar shops - the words pot, kettle and black come to mind  :lol:

Th Diezel VH4 sounds absolutely awesome even at bedroom volumes, I've tried one and would love one myself.  The fact of the matter is that if he can afford to keep both amps, then why not?  The dozen or so guitars that you and PhillyQ have each (at least) are an indulgence too, but thats part of the fun.  If money (and space) were no object, I'd have dozens of guitars and amps too, as would pretty much everyone here if truth be told.


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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2009, 08:00:49 PM »
if you can do.... (id buy a shite loada unessesary gear thats way to good for my ability if i had money and space.... so would u all as HTH said..... ) so if you can then why the hell not, enjoy it  :lol:

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2009, 08:31:37 PM »
Dave, you have more guitars than many guitar shops - the words pot, kettle and black come to mind  :lol:

Th Diezel VH4 sounds absolutely awesome even at bedroom volumes, I've tried one and would love one myself.  The fact of the matter is that if he can afford to keep both amps, then why not?  The dozen or so guitars that you and PhillyQ have each (at least) are an indulgence too, but thats part of the fun.  If money (and space) were no object, I'd have dozens of guitars and amps too, as would pretty much everyone here if truth be told.

Guitars are different.  You can truly appreciate them at any volume  ;)

And for the record I currently have 18 guitars, with 6 up for sale, so I'll soon be down to the dozen.......

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2009, 08:38:22 PM »
Wow!

That looks amazing!

Few questions...

How do you find the front loaded cab? Not to in your face?

How are the hemp cones? And what the wattage of that cab?

How much were the cabs?
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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2009, 08:47:09 PM »
I'm with the "whatever floats your boat" posse. Persoanlly I think full stacks (have one myself) and half stacks (have one of those too), smaller set up AND combo's are all great. I do gig and will admit that the full stack has only been used twice to date. That said we DON'T mic up our back line if we can help it and so get chance to play reasonably loud. I have tried 2 x 12's, 4 x 10's and 4 x 12's, where ever possible I prefer the 4 x 12 becuase of the depth of sound... I like to feel it.

To the O/Poster.... Good luck to ya... I think it looks great, I'm sure it'll sound even better.

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2009, 09:53:43 PM »
i think a few people here might be getting a little jealous...?
the vh4 sounds great at any volume i know as i have one lol. i would happily use it at home at low volumes.
the stack looks awesome not sure how u will be adjusting the EQ haha
in any case enjoy it, im sure you will !

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2009, 09:58:04 PM »
A full stack valve amp at home in the lounge looks cool. Those who pour scorn aren't allowed to do this by their other halves  :wink:

Some blokes drop a few hundred grand on cars they don't need.

I think it looks great. I may get an extension for my Koch and join the club.
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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2009, 10:00:41 PM »
 :D

The monster on the left of the diezels looks amazed at how big the stack is

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2009, 10:02:07 PM »
I hope you've upgraded all the locks in your house, haha!
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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2009, 10:03:28 PM »
:D

The monster on the left of the diezels looks amazed at how big the stack is


... the monster is cr@pping itself in case the volume hits 0.5...
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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2009, 10:46:20 PM »
Some blokes drop a few hundred grand on cars they don't need.

And can drive them at more than a metre an hour...

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2009, 10:49:28 PM »
Some blokes drop a few hundred grand on cars they don't need.

And can drive them at more than a metre an hour...

:lol:

Exactly!  It's all about having the right tool for the job.  I'm sorry, but a 100w full stack for exclusive use in a living room is totally OTT.

Ailean - join a band and enjoy it properly  :D

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2009, 10:55:41 PM »
I'm sorry, but a 100w full stack for exclusive use in a living room is totally OTT.

You are clearly not metal enough! \m/ ;)

Ailean - join a band and enjoy it properly  :D

I do agree with this though.  ;)

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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2009, 11:49:18 PM »
To be honest a Blues Junior is too loud for most living rooms - so its not really a question of function, but of what you get.  Personally i'd take the mythical low powered Brown twin any day (especially as it never actually existed, so I'd have to get someone to build it for me), but then I'm a Fender sort of guy, I say = enjoy and play together!  :D
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Re: I may be over compensating for something but...
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2009, 06:27:34 AM »
Some blokes drop a few hundred grand on cars they don't need.

And can drive them at more than a metre an hour...

True. I agree.

Some blokes drop a few hundred grand on cars they don't need.

And can drive them at more than a metre an hour...
:lol:

Exactly!  It's all about having the right tool for the job.  I'm sorry, but a 100w full stack for exclusive use in a living room is totally OTT.

I'm not sure it is about having the right tool for the job as most of the tools are all too powerful for home playing. And while a 20w amp may be more suited to home playing it still does not sound like a 100w head. (for those who shout 'solid state' and 'modellers', I don't like 'em, yes they can be impressive, but I still don't like 'em.)

Ailean - join a band and enjoy it properly  :D

I'm not up to band standard, but Sue is getting there so it's not beyond imagining that this gear will get used to gig. It will certainly find it's way into a rehersal room at some stage. I'd love to gig, but I'm cr@p, so I'm not sure it will happen.

I've had a Microcube, Peavey Rage 256, Peavey Valveking 112, Tiny Terror, Rockerverb, and VH4. The RV and VH4 blow the others away, and I know they cost a lot more, but the more powerful head just seem to give a much better 'bigger' sound even at low volumes. This is all about enjoyment, yes, I can only use it at 10% of it's power, but the quality of the sound is immense. The additional detailing that comes from the 2 cabs is wonderful (different speakers in each pickign out their own sweet spots).

Also nothing sounds like a 4x12, a 1x12 is not to be considered, a 2x12 gets close, but a 4x12 is what a guitar wants to drive, it's not really any louder, but it does give a bigger more full sound.

Basically it comes down to the fact that *I* think this rig will sound better than a 20w combo or amp/head, and I'm lucky enough to be able to sacrifice the space and money to have it. One day I hope this gear will get a chance to go full bore, but until then it's doing a great job keeping me happy.

I do agree with the points being made against, I really do, and I don't hold it against anyone, but for me the point is that it gives me sounds I like and not that it's overpowered. I'd still buy an Astin Martin and drive it at 70 and enjoy the ride.
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