Username: Password:

Author Topic: This restores my faith in the legal system  (Read 24907 times)

ToneMonkey

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2230
This restores my faith in the legal system
« on: July 24, 2009, 02:29:09 PM »
Advice worth what you just paid for it.

MDV

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 6945
  • If it sounds good it IS good
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2009, 02:33:32 PM »
Meh

He hit someone; what do you want, a good old fashioned lynching?

ToneMonkey

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2230
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 02:36:49 PM »
Well, I wouldn't mind hitting him myself to see if I got away with it.
Advice worth what you just paid for it.

Philly Q

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 18109
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2009, 02:41:22 PM »
I'd like to see the jury, sitting there in their red shirts....

I agree that the actual offence was no big deal, but there was obviously enough of a case that all six of Gerrard's mates were persuaded they might as well plead guilty.

And yet Stevie G, the only person who actually hit anybody (apart from the elbow-man), is found not guilty...

Something stinks.  And it's not just the Jammy Donut c--ktails.
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
BKPs I Had:  RY+Abraxas, Crawlers, BD+SM

MDV

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 6945
  • If it sounds good it IS good
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 02:42:43 PM »
I wouldnt get too het up about it if you dont know the full details of the situation.

I'm rather glad, actually, that an appeal to sense and analysis of the particular circumstances can be made and "But he hit someone" isnt an automatic charge.

I've been there myself, in fact - didnt go to court but the police were intent on understanding the exact details of the situation and taking according action, which in this case was arresting the guy whose nose I broke! Seem odd? Thats because, like here, you dont know the full facts :)

Dmoney

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 3577
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2009, 02:48:47 PM »
Merseyside Police can f*** off.
No Justice. I don't think stevie g should have been charged. i dunno, i've seen way worse stuff happen that what i saw in that cctv. Stevie G smacks a dude in a swank bar in southport and its major news.  A guy gets beaten to death in liverpool in absolutely no reason and nobody bats an eyelid. This makes me hate everything.

MDV

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 6945
  • If it sounds good it IS good
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2009, 02:52:51 PM »
Merseyside Police can f*** off.
No Justice. I don't think stevie g should have been charged. i dunno, i've seen way worse stuff happen that what i saw in that cctv. Stevie G smacks a dude in a swank bar in southport and its major news.  A guy gets beaten to death in liverpool in absolutely no reason and nobody bats an eyelid. This makes me hate everything.

Quite.

There are vastly more important things people could give a shite about. Some tosser that kicks a ball around hitting someone is not one of them. Its a complete non-event.

Philly Q

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 18109
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 02:59:04 PM »
As I said, I don't really give a toss about the actual incident.  I just think it's bizarre that all his mates are "guilty" and he isn't.


I do have to take issue with this, though:

Merseyside Police can f*** off.
No Justice. I don't think stevie g should have been charged. i dunno, i've seen way worse stuff happen that what i saw in that cctv. Stevie G smacks a dude in a swank bar in southport and its major news.  A guy gets beaten to death in liverpool in absolutely no reason and nobody bats an eyelid. This makes me hate everything.

Swank bar?  It looks an absolute sh!thole.  I've seen nicer motorway services.
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
BKPs I Had:  RY+Abraxas, Crawlers, BD+SM

Dmoney

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 3577
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 03:03:26 PM »
but im from southport, ive seen the other bars. its all relative. haha

Philly Q

  • Light Heavyweight
  • ******
  • Posts: 18109
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 03:07:16 PM »
Touche.   :lol:
BKPs I've Got:  RR, BKP-91, ITs, VHII, CS set, Emeralds
BKPs I Had:  RY+Abraxas, Crawlers, BD+SM

Plexi Ken

  • Lightweight
  • ***
  • Posts: 694
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 03:36:17 PM »
So, it's self-defence to attack some who you think may attack you? I must remember that next time some ned looks at me the wrong way. It's entirely legal for me and my mates to knock out his teeth  :roll:
A generous heart, kind speech and a life of service & compassion are the things which renew humanity

Ian Price

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 4571
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 04:57:59 PM »
I strongly suspect if the roles were reversed the outcome would be very different.

It's not really a media worthy piece of news IMO. Just another sad indictment of how the media,and a large percentage of the population of our country, has become obsessed with 'celebrity' over the last 10 or so years.
I think I hate being indecisive.

MDV

  • Middleweight
  • *****
  • Posts: 6945
  • If it sounds good it IS good
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 05:35:38 PM »
I strongly suspect if the roles were reversed the outcome would be very different.

It's not really a media worthy piece of news IMO. Just another sad indictment of how the media,and a large percentage of the population of our country, has become obsessed with 'celebrity' over the last 10 or so years.

$%&#ing tell me about it

Was I the only person who got sick of "tonights top story" being "micheal jackson is still dead"? Was this the most important thing hapenning in the world? Really?

Will

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 2599
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 05:36:16 PM »
From what I have heard of this, he was being a right gobshitee anyway. I have a serious problem with people like that, because they have a name / rep they think they can have it all their way

Dmoney

  • Welterweight
  • ****
  • Posts: 3577
Re: This restores my faith in the legal system
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 05:37:52 PM »
i heard he called the guy 'lad'. i thought that was a given in liverpool and surrounding areas? not a deliberate attempt to be patronising