This restores my faith in the legal system

[MDV]

You are of course entirely correct. I am a totalitarian dictator and the court should reverse its decision in light of your revealing and enlightened insight on the matter.

[Sifu Ben]

Oh, don't be such a child.

[MDV]

I wondered how you'd respond to your own brand of argument. Interesting, thanks.

[Sifu Ben]

If you think that's my brand of argument (and again, it's a DISCUSSION not an argument, you really need to check your ego) then you seriously need to take a reading comprehension course.

[Sifu Ben]

Actually, TBF in the context of the sentence argument could be the correct phase.

[Lew]

Meh

He hit someone; what do you want, a good old fashioned lynching?

Yes  8)

[MDV]

Meh

He hit someone; what do you want, a good old fashioned lynching?

Yes.

:lol:

Not a liverpool suppporter then?

[Lew]

I have a box of rotten tomatoes ready  :lol:

I'm a bit biased because I've been attacked several times by drunk groups (we live in the middle of town argh) and despite it being under CCTV cameras nothing was done + my wife is a detention officer in the area (hey maybe I pissed her off that day and she had a word lol)  :lol:

I think the actual working police are very effective on the street when they're there, but they hardly seem to be nowadays.


 

[Lew]

Also, I strongly believe that unless authority is able to be questioned and challenged it stops becoming for the people and just feeds the elite.

Not that any of what I've said today has anything to do directly with the thread but this thread is clearly in need of some accepted racism to lighten the mood  :lol:

[Dmoney]

I have a box of rotten tomatoes ready  :lol:

I'm a bit biased because I've been attacked several times by drunk groups (we live in the middle of town argh) and despite it being under CCTV cameras nothing was done + my wife is a detention officer in the area (hey maybe I pissed her off that day and she had a word lol)  :lol:

I think the actual working police are very effective on the street when they're there, but they hardly seem to be nowadays.


 

in london i see more police helping ticket inspectors collect fines than helping anyone who has been victimised in any way.
CSO's are even worse. idiots in stupid hats.
someone tried to break into my house and it took them a week to come around and see my housemate who witnessed it. she told them to come when she was home from work but they came in the middle of the day at least 3 times, after they'd been told she wouldnt be home at those times.
Did any police go down for killing or beating people in those protests? i didn't hear about any. maybe they did, maybe they didnt. wouldnt surprise me if they didn't. and now its the case (or at least this was proposed) that you cant photograph police at all. so how do you support claims of intimidation where you may have a legitimate cause?
CCTV is actually proven to lead to pretty few convictions. There was a discussion about this on BBC news recently. camera operators aren't trained and footage doesnt contain the whole truth.

the ONLY times i really see police in london is in the 'richer' areas. parts of west london. i never see them on foot in south east where i live. the funniest thing i saw once was late night in camden, i was chilling outside the electric ballroom waiting for a show to finish, and the road was lined with dealers and illegal taxis. a guy on a bike cycled past going "po po" or whatever, and the taxi guys walked over to a takeaway and pretende to order chips, and the dealers walked off... the police go past oblivious, chatting away, and then everyone goes back to buisness...!! haha. 10 mins later the guy on the bike comes past, and same again. Is it a requirement in the MET that you have to be an idiot?

police exist to make and protect money. thats what i think.

[MDV]

Its true, more police on the beat would be helpfull.

So would not having an alcohol based recreation culture. About half violent crimes invlove alcohol. But what are you gonna do about that? (Aside from anything else, I think that all drugs should be legal; what you put in your own bloodstream is your business, so its a tricky one).

[MDV]

Also, I strongly believe that unless authority is able to be questioned and challenged it stops becoming for the people and just feeds the elite.

Not that any of what I've said today has anything to do directly with the thread but this thread is clearly in need of some accepted racism to lighten the mood  :lol:

:lol:

Theres nothing, NOTHING, wrong with ribbing scousers!

[Dmoney]

scouser are a laugh. im part scouse i guess.
get on youtube and search for croxteth gangs or norris green gangs. crocky mongrels and nogga dogz!
insane!

[MDV]

I have a box of rotten tomatoes ready  :lol:

I'm a bit biased because I've been attacked several times by drunk groups (we live in the middle of town argh) and despite it being under CCTV cameras nothing was done + my wife is a detention officer in the area (hey maybe I pissed her off that day and she had a word lol)  :lol:

I think the actual working police are very effective on the street when they're there, but they hardly seem to be nowadays.


 

in london i see more police helping ticket inspectors collect fines than helping anyone who has been victimised in any way.
CSO's are even worse. idiots in stupid hats.
someone tried to break into my house and it took them a week to come around and see my housemate who witnessed it. she told them to come when she was home from work but they came in the middle of the day at least 3 times, after they'd been told she wouldnt be home at those times.
Did any police go down for killing or beating people in those protests? i didn't hear about any. maybe they did, maybe they didnt. wouldnt surprise me if they didn't. and now its the case (or at least this was proposed) that you cant photograph police at all. so how do you support claims of intimidation where you may have a legitimate cause?
CCTV is actually proven to lead to pretty few convictions. There was a discussion about this on BBC news recently. camera operators aren't trained and footage doesnt contain the whole truth.

the ONLY times i really see police in london is in the 'richer' areas. parts of west london. i never see them on foot in south east where i live. the funniest thing i saw once was late night in camden, i was chilling outside the electric ballroom waiting for a show to finish, and the road was lined with dealers and illegal taxis. a guy on a bike cycled past going "po po" or whatever, and the taxi guys walked over to a takeaway and pretende to order chips, and the dealers walked off... the police go past oblivious, chatting away, and then everyone goes back to buisness...!! haha. 10 mins later the guy on the bike comes past, and same again. Is it a requirement in the MET that you have to be an idiot?

police exist to make and protect money. thats what i think.

Police exist to protect the public and mediate disputes evenhandedly. previously, without Hobbes' Leviathan to deal with people that predate on others (in one way or another) you had to protect yourself, which often meant extreme retributive measures in attempts to show people how big and bad you are. Endless cycle of violence, survival only of the strong, not very civilised.

Most police, and I know quite a few, get into it to protect people. Protecting property is part of that. They dont make much money doing it either!

They do an extremely difficult job, and get very little but stick for it. Not being in thbe right place at the right time, not catching that guy that you couldnt describe more accurately than "about 6 foot, late teens early twenties", etc etc. They need to use evidence to work to not catch the wrong people (which is as important as catching the right ones).

Imagine for a second what would happen if the police dissapeared overnight.

And my parents met in the the MET, so watch it! ;)

[Afghan Dave]

Imagine for a second what would happen if the police dissapeared overnight.

That's exactly what they do...