Warmoth Prices

[FernandoDuarte]

When I was reading about the necks I read alot of complaints that the Warmoth 2-way truss sounds like poop too (?).

I read this only in the USACQ forum, to be fair...
I'm on the Warmoth forum for about 3 years and never heard a guy saying that bought a neck and it sounds not good because of the truss rod

PS: Only read Wez post now and I quite agree with him!

[Lew]

No worries, I read some of it at TGP and people there do often have agendas going on.

[Jonny]

I just sent a quote to USACG, I'm actually quite excited to see if it's close, good/bad.

[Philly Q]

I just sent a quote to USACG, I'm actually quite excited to see if it's close, good/bad.

From what I've heard, USACG basic prices are a bit more than Warmoth, but they don't charge extra for the personalised extras.  If that makes any sense....

[Jonny]

I just sent a quote to USACG, I'm actually quite excited to see if it's close, good/bad.

From what I've heard, USACG basic prices are a bit more than Warmoth, but they don't charge extra for the personalised extras.  If that makes any sense....

I think that's better than Warmoth surely?

You could have a basic Strat, 3 SCs, Vintage Trem, maple/rosewood or maple Fender neck and it that'd be the right price but surely anyone would want a little difference like binding or anything they offer. It's nice they make it easy but not nice that you really have to be basic just to get a good price.

Or so I think.

[Philly Q]

Yeah, if you're ordering a custom piece you might as well go with USACG I guess.

Me personally, I'm cautious about buying something I haven't actually seen, so I keep watching the Showcase.  Something'll turn up eventually!

[Lew]

I think for basic orders Warmoth are better priced. But, when you start adding options their price starts scaling alot faster than usacg and can possibly end up costing more.

The Warmoth neck was $419, where as the very similar usacg neck was $480.

But when you consider what I got for the extra $61 - 1/4 sawn maple, graphite rods, rolled fingerboard, to specify the wood grain, choose either nitro or poly finish, half the build time and faster shipping it doesn't seem like a big deal. I'd have ordered those options from Warmoth too if I could.

Warmoth charge for daft things like $15 for no butt holes and $35 for a straight radius + different back shapes at $35  :? :?

I don't have a problem ordering unseen A) because of the reputation and B) because they go through every detail with you like a trainspotter. When I ordered the neck I specifically asked them to find me the most boring and straightest grained maple with as little grain run out as possible... and it was no big deal. But with Warmoth, what you get is luck of the draw unless you go showcase.

[Philly Q]

I don't have a problem ordering unseen A) because of the reputation and B) because they go through every detail with you like a trainspotter. When I ordered the neck I specifically asked them to find me the most boring and straightest grained maple with as little grain run out as possible... and it was no big deal. But with Warmoth, what you get is luck of the draw unless you go showcase.

Did you order by phone?  What were they like to deal with?   I'm a bit phone-phobic.

[Lew]

I started it off with e-mail but rang em so I could better articulate what I want + they were slow with e-mails.

They were amazing to work with, I've not got the neck yet so can't comment first hand on quality. But, I can't give them enough praise for the service. I was chatting to Rob for ages because he was so easy to get on with and it wasn't a case of just giving him the specs. We went through what my choices meant in terms of playability, tone, reliability. I'm not afraid to ask questions when I dont understand something  :lol: He took about 15 minutes alone chatting to me about frets to make sure I got the right ones. 

[FernandoDuarte]

Warmoth charge for daft things like $15 for no butt holes and $35 for a straight radius + different back shapes at $35  :? :?

That's because they need to re-program the CNC machines or make it by hand... That get things longer, but I don't think it's really that expensive...

About the wood figuring/grain... Is a real problem to me to as I'm really picky about, but I understand that there is a difference in "getting the first in the bunch" and "searching one with X, Y, Z looking..."
They don't do it, unfortunately... I'm one that really wants it...

The major rule on Warmoth is: wanna get a simple strat with maple / maple+ rosewood / maple + pau ferro / maple + ebony neck?? Go showcase... Wanna something more detailed? go custom order...

[WezV]

That's because they need to re-program the CNC machines or make it by hand... That get things longer, but I don't think it's really that expensive...

surely they only have to do that once!!  as soon as you have the cnc programmed for the different neck shapes, radii or different holes then its no more difficult than doing it standard!!

so warmoth charge $35 for every non-standard neck shape even though the manufacturing process and material cost will be identical to a standard neck shape

[Philly Q]

Yeah, the only Warmoth upcharge I really resent is the $35 for different neck shapes - why should I pay more just because I like the '59 roundback, when it can't possibly cost any more to manufacture than a Fatback or Standard Thin?  :x

[FernandoDuarte]

That's because they need to re-program the CNC machines or make it by hand... That get things longer, but I don't think it's really that expensive...

surely they only have to do that once!!  as soon as you have the cnc programmed for the different neck shapes, radii or different holes then its no more difficult than doing it standard!!

so warmoth charge $35 for every non-standard neck shape even though the manufacturing process and material cost will be identical to a standard neck shape

What I tried to say is: he's asking something OUT of the normal program and then they'll need to re-program it...
Example the straight radius on fingerboard... They have already programed it to be 10"-16", to make it straight 12" I think they need to re-program

[WezV]

yes, but they have that program already sorted so only need to reload it before starting the CNC running.  

they do no more work to switch to a custom neck shape than they do to switch between the standard neck shapes - its just reloading the relevant program.  the custom neck shapes are no more out of the normal program than a fat or boat neck which you dont get charged for.  each customer gets charged $35 a go and i bet they do them all the same time to save reloading the program so its not like its 5 minutes changover (generous estimate) between programs for each neck

same for the fretboards, although i assume they get less requests for custom radii than they do custom neck shapes so a small charge is acceptable as the time to switch for a small number of necks should be taken into account

[FernandoDuarte]

the neck back I too agree that probably isn't big thing but I'm uncertain about the radius... anyway I've a very very very little experience with CNC and know very little about, how much programs you can have at same time, etc...
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