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Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« on: September 14, 2009, 03:16:32 PM »


Here's the situation.

I'm the soundguy/organ grinder for two singing girls. They're very good at what they do and throw in a nice show as well.

Still, it's just singing with a backing track. So we had this idea we could do some songs with them singing and just me, playing the guitar.

My car is already filled with a PA system and I'm not going to invest several 100's on an acoustic and I can't haul my amp along.

So I was thinking electric and an amps simulator.

It's small, cheap, portable, mobile, can be hooked up to the PA, easy to use (I hate scrolling through menus) and the clips I found weren't half bad.

What are your experiences and opinions about it?
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 04:12:22 PM »
i had a normal pocket pod and returned it, terrible
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 07:39:31 PM »
i had a normal pocket pod and returned it, terrible

+1. They're good if you are after a really tinny digital sound.
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 08:18:22 PM »
Well it is about compromise. The punters are there to see and hear the girls and will not think "ooh this would be so much better if that guitarist had a big ol' tube amp etc etc" so a simulater sounds to me like a good compromise. As for which one though I have no idea. I have an old ( first series) pod and I have used it through a PA with my Strat and whilst it wasn't my real thing, I was a backing musician. No-one came to see me and no-one cared -gig went well and we all went home satisfied.


edit: sorry,  that comes across all "holier than thou".
« Last Edit: September 14, 2009, 08:22:41 PM by 38thBeatle »
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2009, 08:26:48 PM »
I've used a modeller for almost every gig. Look at the SansAmp character series, I think they brought things on a step with this series.
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 11:25:16 PM »
I seem to remember the PSA1.1 had an acoustic sim? does that fare well Vs the character series?

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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 11:59:54 PM »
I seem to remember the PSA1.1 had an acoustic sim? does that fare well Vs the character series?

the PSA1.1 is very hifi, but i think the character series sound more realistic.

regarding the acoustic sim, i've never tried that preset.
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 07:59:34 AM »
I have a Pocket Pod - use it when I am travelling with headphones to allow me to practice - would I stick it through a PA for a live gig? Err, no! Sounds are pretty average really - tinny is a good word..
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 12:07:21 PM »
Well it is about compromise. The punters are there to see and hear the girls and will not think "ooh this would be so much better if that guitarist had a big ol' tube amp etc etc" so a simulater sounds to me like a good compromise. As for which one though I have no idea. I have an old ( first series) pod and I have used it through a PA with my Strat and whilst it wasn't my real thing, I was a backing musician. No-one came to see me and no-one cared -gig went well and we all went home satisfied.


edit: sorry,  that comes across all "holier than thou".

yes, thats all well and good... but theirs such thing as a terrible tone that is really not useable.. a pcket pod isnt designed for live use, its just a toy
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 12:16:46 PM »
38th Beatle makes a good point. I'm not after a 'god tone'. No sim will ever be as good as a proper amp.

I've considdered a small portable amp too. Most of those have zero headroom and are very limited in sounds. IMO they sound worse than average.

The Tech21's are a bit pricey. The Blonde pedal would have my preference but I'm not convinced by the clips I found.

So what other options do I have?

Edit: Anyone try one of those Boss Fender amp sims on a PA system?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2009, 12:47:39 PM by Ratrod »
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 12:48:42 PM »
The best of that kind of thing, IMO, is the tonelab LE. It would do what you want of it.

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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 01:50:56 PM »
The best of that kind of thing, IMO, is the tonelab LE. It would do what you want of it.

+1 (in fact you beat me to it :lol:)

They've launched the ST, which comes in cheaper. It seems to have more amp models (or variations on the 11 in the LE? I can't tell from what I've managed to read so far), it also has USB connectivity (LE doesn't, but you can connect to a PC easily via MIDI and an interface). However, the ST seems less flexible for live use to me - the LE has the ability to "open up" a patch with a footswitch, and then you can use the main footswitches to turn effects on or off in that patch - on the ST you would have to cycle between patches (ie if you want to turn chorus on/off, you need to set up two patches, one with, one without, and switch between them).

I've never used the LE live, but based on my recording and home use of it over the last 12 months I definitely would give it a go. I'm doing the equivalent of running it through a PA in my living room (mixing desk to mid/cheap 100w powered speakers), and as long as I can turn it up enough, I love the sounds I get, much better feel than an amp at the same volume... The only thing that would worry me would be getting enough monitor to feel like I'm playing an amp - I get that in the living room, but in a gig?... gwem must be solving this in his live rig - but I suspect that with the line-up you're dealing with you might not need that much power anyway?

I'd also happily use my POD XTLive in the same way (less convinced of it's reliability though), and at a pinch my POD 2.0 - but I don't like those models as much as the XT models. The pocket POD I believe (and therefore the Pocket POD Express? dunno) is based on the POD 2.0 software, but with minimal tweakability - so if it's anything like the presets in the POD 2.0, er... wouldn't want to use those :lol:
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 01:53:28 PM »
Yeah, I recommend the LE in great part because your patches are one or two stomps away. I havent used it live, but it should be very usable for live.

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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2009, 05:51:22 PM »
Tonelab Le is a great pedal, beats the pod by a mile (used to own the podxt sold and got the le)
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Re: Anyone have a Pocket Pod Express?
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 05:57:09 PM »
The Tonelabs are way beyond my budget.

I did put the Tech21 Blonde pedal on my list of options.

A guy on the other forum I frequent has been raving about it. He's planning to do some clips. I haven't heard any convincing clips on youtube yet.
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