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mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« on: September 26, 2009, 11:07:31 PM »
I've managed to shift some gear that I wasn't using and am thinking of getting a mkII or mkIII Boogie head just for the versatility (and I always love the way they sound).

One just went on ebay literally a couple of days before I knew for sure I'd sold some of this gear :0(

If anyone knows of one for a similar amount, I'd be interested in having a look.  Would consider a mkIV head too, but they're a bit 'bells & whistles' really compared to what I prefer.

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 04:02:28 AM »
tried a mk3 for the first time a few days ago. was impressed. im looking to sell my mesa rectifier rectoverb in order to buy the one i tried. would be interesting to hear what people have to say about the mk3 here though !

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 12:31:46 PM »
cheers morgasm,

I'll wanting to hear more user experiences too, these amps always impress me when I hear people play them, but cost has always put me off getting one.

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 02:48:29 PM »
I play a bunch of Mesa's..the MK III is a killer metal amp,first of all...if you were using it mainly for metal,yessir!!...not as warm and rich as the C+, but the + is considered the Holy Grail of the mk series,and you pay$$ for it!...there are some mods that can be performed as well...http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25347
...if you canfind a good deal on one, I think you may like it..on the link I provided, the board members who performed the r2 mod(Joey and Jay) are good friends of mine-I have played thru their amps and they are great metal amps-i do prefer the C+ for the best of all worlds
..there is also the stripe color(red,blue,purple,green..) , transformer,etc..let me know if you find one-I can tell you what it has,etc
good luck!
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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 02:59:58 PM »
thanks for that info Shaman,

I'm not wanting a Mesa for metal, more like hard rock really to fit in with my covers band - we play mostly 70s rock stuff like Deep Purple, AC/DC, MSG, ZZ Top, Sabbath etc... but I like a bit of a fatter tone that some of those bands as I'm covering all bases on 90% of the songs with the singer playing guitar as well on a few songs.


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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 01:05:59 AM »
it will get the job done...also, a Mk IIB or IIC-you may be able to find any of these at a decent price-please keep me posted :)
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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 01:44:13 AM »
been offered one for a grand. is 1k a decent price for an all original mk3? some wear but not much. all works perfectly fine...

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 03:28:04 PM »
Nope. I turned down a very early mk3 (no stripe) in great condition for 600 recently.

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 12:08:36 AM »
fair enough cheers.

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 12:14:30 AM »
Nope. I turned down a very early mk3 (no stripe) in great condition for 600 recently.

can I have the details of the person selling it, £600 is a good price for a mkIII Boogie.

what is the deal with the 'stripe' ???

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 01:13:52 AM »
the stripe represents various revisions of the Mk III
reprinted without permission-check this out-MESA however was not content to rest on their laurels and after only ~1500 Mark IIC+'s, they introduced the Mark III, the world's first tri-modal amplifier. As with all things MESA, this was a work in evolution that went through five folios or "stripes" until the final product was reached. The Mark III series represents the most extensive line of amplifier evolution and tweaking in the history of Mark amps. The five "stripes" represent the chronology of the evolution of the Mark III. Widely received, the option of three modes was openly accepted but with lofty expectations. When it was first brought out, several people complained that they wanted a bold R2 and the IIC+ lead sound (much debate has surrounded the R2 sound and its relation to R1 but we won't cover that here). The various "stripes" of the Mark III represent the attempts at this request.In reality MESA could have called them the Mark IIIA, IIIB, IIIC, IIID and IIIE.

Like the IIC+ with its famous plus, these stripes were located over the power cord with Mike B.'s initials below. They are merely a swipe with a Jiffy Marker of the appropriate color. The five stripes were as follows:

In order, the stripes were:

None or Black Stripe
Purple Stripe
Red Stripe
Blue Stripe
Green Stripe

As with all things MESA, what these various stages represent are a matter of opinion with respect of the sound character. Don't let anyone pass on a bunch of bullshitee about one being better than the other. They represent snapshots in time of the development of an amplifier line. If the amplifier gets you the tone you want, the jiffy marker is nothing more than a mark of its vintage. Much anxiety is generated in the Mark III group by this extensive evolution, much because of misinformation about what these stripes represent.

#1 - No mark or a little dot. Only a few hundred then some balck marks or "+"'s .

- Lean and powerful amp with more output power than a IIC+

#2 - Purple: reshaping of R2

- R2 was shaped to be more "rounded" and less gain, with improved level

#3 - Red: R2 is like current Mark III

- R2 further developed and very hot. Lead mode is also tweaked to close in on the IIC+ sound

#4 - Blue: Reshaping of R1

- More aggressive preamp gain - reshaping of R1, Power section made akin to IIC+

#5 - Green/Simul-Class: Final R1 and Lead Channel reshaping

- Cleaner
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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2009, 02:01:27 AM »
Ahhhhh!! La Sabiduria.....!!!
Just passing by

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2009, 10:55:55 PM »
Nope. I turned down a very early mk3 (no stripe) in great condition for 600 recently.

can I have the details of the person selling it, £600 is a good price for a mkIII Boogie.

what is the deal with the 'stripe' ???

The diff stripes mark revisions

PM'd you his e-mail  8)
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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 04:36:40 PM »
thanks for that info Shaman,

I'm not wanting a Mesa for metal, more like hard rock really to fit in with my covers band - we play mostly 70s rock stuff like Deep Purple, AC/DC, MSG, ZZ Top, Sabbath etc... but I like a bit of a fatter tone that some of those bands as I'm covering all bases on 90% of the songs with the singer playing guitar as well on a few songs.



Would have thought a JCM800 with KT88s might have been a good solution.

Never really been a huge fan of Boogies.

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Re: mkIII Mesa, anyone?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 11:45:05 PM »
...play thru the clean channel of a C+ and I bet you would warm up to one quickly! :D
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