Good, but cheap, wah?

[MrBump]

Morley Bad Horsie

Tried it.
Loathed it.
It doesn't sweep like a proper wah and you can't hold the way full back like with a traditional one; it will just engage and disengage at random intervals (let alone pushing back beyond the normal rock.) and I can't leave it an a single position; I would have to endure foot cramp.
This is my experience of it in a shop so maybe it works better after you get to know it a bit but I wouldn't hold out the hope.

Me too - found it in a bargain bucket, and couldn't resist it.  But hated it when I got home - too metal for my tastes.

[Pete24v]

possibly slightly over budget, but the Dunlop EVH is a fantastic wah. I've had cry babys, geroge dennis (very nice they are!) morley and an ernie ball... the EVH rules for dirty rhythms and lead, pretty poor on a clean sound because the midrange spike is so high that it distorts.

[dave_mc]

^ thanks, i'll check that out too.

:lol:I know.... I'm f**kin about but it bumps this thread - so I'm helping you really!  :lol:

haha, no worries, i didn't know if you were joking or not :lol:

I would recommend getting hold of the BYOC Wah PCB and building and dropping into your Crybaby.

If you are not buying the complete kit then use a Whipple halo inductor and Red Fasel.
With vocal mod the Halo will do the old style stuff like Hendrix and the Fasel the modern stuff.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66957213@N00/4056080231/

thanks, I'll check that out.

anyone tried the budda? it seems to be about the only vaguely boutique wah which isn't ridiculous money (it's still not cheap)...

[Elliot]

Autowah is the way to go - no foot technique need, just wah fun.  Cheap = Ibanez AW7

[dave_mc]

i dunno, i think i'd like to be able to use my foot... and not just to prove dave wrong regarding my laziness. :lol: I could be way off, though. :oops:

[gingataff]

anyone tried the budda? it seems to be about the only vaguely boutique wah which isn't ridiculous money (it's still not cheap)...

I think it's just a modded Crybaby, and is made by Dunlop for Budda. I haven't tried one though.

[dave_mc]

interesting, i did not know that. Thanks for the info. :)

[Antag]

Morley Bad Horsie

too metal for my tastes.

...which probably has something to do with why I love it.  To each his own...

[martinw]

I've been using a Bad Horsie for years, for everything from rock to funk. Doesn't sound metal to me!
I manage not to sound like Vai either.  :)
After using this I've tried to go back to normal wahs (like the Cry Baby) but I can't stand them now.

One trick is to adjust the internal trim pot so that there's no delay on turning 'off'. Makes it easier to drive.

The other thing is to remember that it has a large sweep, so you can focus on small areas effectively, like the top end for solos and the bottom end for rhythym playing.

[tomjackson]

The Fender Fuzz wah got a good reiview in guitarist

http://www.reverb-store.co.uk/product-detail.asp?prod=4666.

IT's suppost to be fairly tame in its sweep but I think (like the EVH) mentioned below, some wah's have a spike that's too hard making them not great for cleaner stuff.  I Did a pedal Doc mod on my vox and it 'quacks' so hard at one point on it's sweep it almost dostorts.  Sounds good with distortion but not so good clean unless the amp is quiet.

The Ernie ball wah got great reviews:-

http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/products/4221-ernie_ball_6185_wah_guitar_effects_pedal

£130 is over your budget but I'd save up rather than going cheap (if you don't like the Fender)

[blue]

i saw a recent picture of Vai's pedalboard and he had a Crybaby rather than a Bad Horsie. 

doesn't really contribute to this discussion, just made me think of it...  :)

[Andrew W]

anyone tried the budda? it seems to be about the only vaguely boutique wah which isn't ridiculous money (it's still not cheap)...

I used to have a Bubba Bud Wah and found the sweep to be far too narrow.  It's great if you want to do funk style "wocka chucka" type stuff but for anything more expressive I didn't find it too great.  I sold that and bought one of the Red Fasel Cry Babies which suits my needs better.  I think it's horses for courses though - the Budda's not a bad pedal, it just wasn't right for me.

[choucas09]

Look I know the brief here is for a cheap wah and mines one of the most expensive, but it's been said many times on guitar forums that you're much more likely to get a keeper when you shell out. I've got a Roger Mayer vision wah, loads of money I know (£250), but it's a great piece of kit. 16 sweeps, blend control (wah to dry) and an output control which gives some boost plus it's very low profile which helps ergonomically. If you're going to get into wah it makes as much a contribution sonically as your guitar or amp so perhaps should be judged thus financially. Here's a little taste of what it sounds like. The 1st part through a humble Microcube, the 2nd through a valve amp.
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8286653

[sjwebb90]

If you need a more expressive wah as noted by "Andrew W" just swap out the the Hot Pots II Dunlop pot and try an ICAR 100K.

http://www.smallbearelec.com/Categories.bok?category=Wah-Wah+and+Swell+Pedal+Parts%2C+Wah+Inductors

[Alex]

I currently have the Dunlop Slash Wah, the CFH and the Zakk Wyle Wah. I like the simplicity of the Zakk a lot and it is just within yout budget (at GAK).

I think it's better than the standard Crybaby, it has a bigger sweep and a Fasel. It doesn't say it's true bypass anywhere, oddly enough I found that it gives a bypass signal even without battery or power, I guess it might be then. Admittedly I've only fed it quite strong output humbuckers, so I've not noticed any tone loss. Strats might behave differently.

I also had a Morley George Lynch Wah. The switchless sweep works awesome. If now only Morley could come up with a Wah that doesn't sound sterile, screechy and/or totally lifeless I would dig their stuff.