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dave_mc

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Good, but cheap, wah?
« on: October 29, 2009, 07:47:54 PM »
Hi guys,

Does anyone make a good, but cheap, wah? I'd ideally want to spend under £50 (though I suspect that's being unrealistic), up to £100 if it's really worth it... any more and I might as well just save for a boutique one. I don't use effects all that much though, and don't really want to be forking out £150 or £200 for a boutique one unless there's really no alternative.

I don't mind if it's true bypass or buffered, but it needs to be a good buffer. And none of this SPST nonsense :roll:

Tones I'd be after would be pretty much a mix of vintage and modern- hendrix and page for the vintage, more like vai, satriani, vinnie moore, petrucci lead tones for the more modern stuff.

I already have a dunlop GCB95, which is cr@p, so it needs to be better than that, or I'm just throwing my money away. It sucks tone when bypassed because of the aforementioned SPST switch, and when on it really thins out the tone and has a very abrupt sweep. Horrible, so much so that I just don't use it. I've considered modding it, but it's me so I'd never get round to it, plus the parts needed for modding it aren't exactly cheap anyway, unlike for most other pedal mods.

Only ones I've come up with so far are the artec ones (which I'm a bit wary of, based on what I've been told both by artec and one other guy on another forum who got one), and the modtone one (which isn't particularly cheap), and I can't try either before buying. Pity tonerider or someone similar doesn't offer a wah...  :x

Any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance. If there's any info I've left out which would help you with recommendations, just ask.

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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 07:50:30 PM »
behringer?
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 07:52:12 PM »
would it be any better than what i already have? I've heard a lot of horror stories about behringer pedals... Thanks for the suggestion, though, I'll take a look.
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 07:52:37 PM »
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 07:58:56 PM »
Let me expand on my recommendation a bit.

I suggest the mighty Bad Horsie not just because it's within your budgert & in stock :) but because I truly believe it's a GREAT wah pedal (I have two of them & haven't considered anything else since).  Not only does it sound great, but the switchless design is one of the most sensible pieces of FX pedal design EVER :)

The pedal is held in the "up"/"back" position by a spring.  You move it off that position, the wah switches on.  Wail away on it for a while, take your foot off, it switches off.  What could be simpler?  No pressing down on it trying to get the switch to click, no feeling around with your heel trying to hit the switch that's next to the pedal.

Added to which, it's built like a tank, is noiseless & (due to its wide base) never tips over.
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 08:07:34 PM »
thanks, antag. That's a lot cheaper than it used to be.

I'm always a bit biased against signature gear (psychologically, more than anything else), but if it'll do the job...

Only concern with that one is (a) will it sound too much like vai? (b) will it sound too modern and (c) what if i want to set the wah in one position and leave it?
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 08:07:58 PM »
How about a second hand Cry Baby or Vox from ebay self mod to suit,
http://www.wah-wah.co.uk/
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 08:09:11 PM »
I already have a crybaby, but I'm kind of lazy, which is the problem. More importantly, I don't really have anywhere to set up a solder station (where do you guys solder, out of interest? :? )...
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 08:14:30 PM »
Quote from: dave_mc on October 29, 2009, 08:09:11 PM
I already have a crybaby, but I'm kind of lazy, which is the problem. More importantly, I don't really have anywhere to set up a solder station (where do you guys solder, out of interest? :? )...

PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER YOU BUM!  :P

Stop looking for problems and look for solutions... "im lazy/don't know where to solder/can't be bothered to move my foot"

F**kin' kids today...  :? :lol:
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 08:36:29 PM »
hey, in my defence i never said i couldn't be bothered to move my foot... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 08:39:12 PM »
Quote from: Antag on October 29, 2009, 07:52:37 PM
Morley Bad Horsie
Tried it.
Loathed it.
It doesn't sweep like a proper wah and you can't hold the way full back like with a traditional one; it will just engage and disengage at random intervals (let alone pushing back beyond the normal rock.) and I can't leave it an a single position; I would have to endure foot cramp.
This is my experience of it in a shop so maybe it works better after you get to know it a bit but I wouldn't hold out the hope.
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 08:53:40 PM »
Quote from: dave_mc on October 29, 2009, 08:36:29 PM
hey, in my defence i never said i couldn't be bothered to move my foot... :lol: :lol: :lol:

 :D :D OK but very close

Quote from: dave_mc on October 29, 2009, 08:07:34 PM
what if i want to set the wah in one position and leave it?

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2009, 09:19:15 PM »
no, i meant that because it has the spring-loaded thingy which senses when your foot is on the pedal, you can't set it in the one position and leave it on like you can do with a normal wah with a normal on/off switch. Even i'm not that lazy... :lol:
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2009, 09:31:31 PM »
 :lol:I know.... I'm f**kin about but it bumps this thread - so I'm helping you really!  :lol:
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Re: Good, but cheap, wah?
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2009, 09:44:48 PM »
I would recommend getting hold of the BYOC Wah PCB and building and dropping into your Crybaby.

If you are not buying the complete kit then use a Whipple halo inductor and Red Fasel.
With vocal mod the Halo will do the old style stuff like Hendrix and the Fasel the modern stuff.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66957213@N00/4056080231/

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