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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2009, 03:55:34 PM »
Have any experience on how it takes heavier distortions (I mean, not quite the metal/brootalz thing but much more than classic rock / early hard rock) ?

I've tried it twice - in a tele at Phil's place, and a tele/strat hybrid at Wez's place. Classic rock/early hard rock will be excellent on it.

Yeps, I have no doubt on this from what I've heard - but I was actually wondering how it would do with _heavier_ distortions :mrgreen:

i'm sure it can handle it - its one of Tim's best designed pickups IMHO
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2009, 04:53:38 PM »
Mmmm... Now I'm even more in doubt  :?
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2009, 05:10:59 PM »
Mmmm... Now I'm even more in doubt  :?

I have many BKPs, Tim has only been wrong once.

edit: and twice I purposely ignored his advice, but he was right ;)
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2009, 06:15:52 PM »
I have many BKPs, Tim has only been wrong once.

edit: and twice I purposely ignored his advice, but he was right ;)

I'm more than confident in Tim's knowledge and judgement. My doubts are more about me, what I said I was looking for, and what I'm really looking for... :oops:

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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2009, 06:46:50 PM »
I have many BKPs, Tim has only been wrong once.

edit: and twice I purposely ignored his advice, but he was right ;)

I'm more than confident in Tim's knowledge and judgement. My doubts are more about me, what I said I was looking for, and what I'm really looking for... :oops:

its a problem we all suffer from at some point ;)
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2009, 07:06:36 PM »
Ok, got Tim's answer this morning, and to my surprise, he recommands... a BG flat 50 set  :o

So, I'm now browsing the archives and clips for opinions and samples on this set - if anyone that has them could comment on how they sound on heavy distortion (not metal but...), it may help. Andrew W, if you read me - did you try your BG set now ?

Not yet I'm afraid.  I'm planning on doing some soldering this weekend so hopefully I can offer up my impressions on Sunday.  Have a lot on at work though at the moment and that's going to have to take priority.  I'll post when I have something.

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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2009, 07:47:04 PM »
I'm more than confident in Tim's knowledge and judgement. My doubts are more about me, what I said I was looking for, and what I'm really looking for... :oops:

its a problem we all suffer from at some point ;)

Thanks  - at least I feel a bit less pathetic now  :?
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2009, 07:50:17 PM »
Andrew W, if you read me - did you try your BG set now ?

Not yet I'm afraid.  I'm planning on doing some soldering this weekend so hopefully I can offer up my impressions on Sunday.  Have a lot on at work though at the moment and that's going to have to take priority.  I'll post when I have something.

Yes, please.

Oh Lord, was so much simple when I didn't know how much good pups could make a difference  :lol:
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2009, 06:37:21 PM »
I wired up the guitar this afternoon "simple" Esquire style.  The only tweak I made to the usual schematic was to use a .022uF cap on the "bass" selector setting.  The Blackguard Flat 50 is much more open sounding than the Piledriver.  I don't think I'd quite appreciated how compressed the Piledriver is until now.  Bearing in mind that I've only played the new guitar for about 30 minutes (more to test that I'd hooked everything up right than for pleasure) I would say that for AC/DC and Led Zeppelin tones the BG Flat 50 is awesome.  For early ZZ Top it's great too.  For more squished, thicker sounding 80s era ZZ Top I think the Piledriver probably has the edge.  The BG Flat 50 is certainly more flexible than the Piledriver and has more clarity but I don't know if that's what you want?  Have I helped at all here or just muddied the waters more?

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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2009, 07:03:36 PM »
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The BG Flat 50 is certainly more flexible than the Piledriver and has more clarity but I don't know if that's what you want?  Have I helped at all here or just muddied the waters more?

Hi Andrew, and thanks for the report. And yes, it really helps  8)

Even if I'm not yet 101% confident in my choice, I think I'll go for the BG50 on this guitar. It was not what I first planned when I started looking for a Tele, but the more I play it and the more I remember why I loved telecasters at first - and FWIW, I can already get heavier, more modern sounds from my Vox Custom 24.

Looks like I'll have to get myself (or build) another tele to put Piledrivers in  :mrgreen:
 
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2009, 12:34:42 PM »
Hi, been busy for a few days... (still am, but got fed up enough to get distracted onto here for a few minutes! Roll on the Christmas break!!!)

... but I do like the direction this thread has taken :D

Not surprised Tim recommended BG50s.

I reckon you'll be happy with them. I've had two sets for a good while now, and I'm still finding more things I can do with them.

I've loved all my BKPs, but the BG50s, both times, were the ones that made the biggest difference to a guitar, in the "omigod that's amazing!!! that's just what I was imagining..." kind of way.

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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2009, 12:58:17 PM »
Not surprised Tim recommended BG50s.

I reckon you'll be happy with them. I've had two sets for a good while now, and I'm still finding more things I can do with them.

I've loved all my BKPs, but the BG50s, both times, were the ones that made the biggest difference to a guitar, in the "omigod that's amazing!!! that's just what I was imagining..." kind of way.

Well, (crossing fingers) hope that'll do the trick with me too - just ordered the BG50s  8)

At least I'll be able to tell you how they sound on a '62 RI rosewood/alder Tele (but I won't have the extra opportunity to compare with Yardbirds).
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2009, 12:34:22 AM »

Well, (crossing fingers) hope that'll do the trick with me too - just ordered the BG50s  8)

At least I'll be able to tell you how they sound on a '62 RI rosewood/alder Tele (but I won't have the extra opportunity to compare with Yardbirds).


For those that are interested, follow-up here :http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19737.0

To make a long story short: BGF50s are just GREAT  :D
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Re: YetAnotherWhichPupsForThisTele(tm) thread
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2009, 09:54:38 AM »
Yeeha! :D
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