walked out on my band

[Nadz1lla]

Funnily enough, I'm kinda thinking to do the same thing. I know I write all the material, but jeez, the guys don't even contact me to see when the next practice is, or invite me out / around their houses or anything. There's only one person in the band I would do another project with because he's good to work with on writing material and he's always practised and where I need him to be with bells on. (He's the exception in the band really, lives a long way away so I can only expect so much from him.)

Dmoney, I think you just convinced me that there are some things not worth spending the effort on, especially as it all seems all the effort comes from just me. I think I'll shut B.o.D down and talk to my Bass player about something I already have lined up.

Cheers fella, and hope all goes well for whatever you plan to do next! 

LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN!!!!!!

 :band1:  :gib:

Viva la revolution!!!  :lol:

[FernandoDuarte]

Bad to hear it man!
I'm in kind of alike situation, but with my rugby team... I'm one of the three "owners", the other two are brothers... I know them since 2000, but they make some decisions and don't tell me, they say they will do something and NEVER do it and all what I say is said to be BS (I always try to see flaws before it happens and they always say I'm tearing before it's broke...)

Last training, after a short arguement, I said after a long time thinking about: "Well, if it's that way I think I should stop participating of the decisions and just play with you"... as nobody said anything, I'm understanding that it was accepted...

Bad for them, they are 25 and 21 years old, but still lives under their parents' wings... I live by myself since I'm 20 and have a lot more experience, not to say that I make my own money and was using it to help the team (what's not going to happen again)...

This is really frustating me... I'm moving to São Paulo city and I hope I start training there...

Kinda off-topic but I was like needing saying it... :(

[CaptainDesslock]

This is really frustating me... I'm moving to São Paulo city and I hope I start training there...

Kinda off-topic but I was like needing saying it... :(

But Sao Paulo's a good thing right? Whenever bands do South American tours don't they always have Sao Paulo on the list?

[FernandoDuarte]

SP is the biggest city of Brazil.
That's a good thing in deed, both to music and rugby (not counting any other cultural stuff... SP is the most important city in the bussiness area and one the most in culture and sports)

[Dmoney]

Thanks for the support for my decision. It's good to know its not just me being mental.

We're planning some kinda of last show since we had a lot of requests to do so. Should be in London, should be crazy.

Went to the Leeds madball show last night. Was band was meant to play it. It was the weakest most disturbing thing id seen for a while. I didn't pay in, just sat in the bar of the venue with a bunch of friends who did the same. ALL put off by the 12 pound door fee. It wasn't packed. Madball played well buy it was pretty dull. I peeped through the door to see a bit.

Promoter was £500 off madballs fee. Totally stupid. He couldn't even cover support bands petrol fees.

Hardcore in this country sucks. Such a lack of support for homegrown bands. It's all about using bands to pay americans stupidly high guarantees. Last night was joke for the money madball are on and I'm glad my band wasn't involved. People actually suggested my band breaking up damaged the madball tour by not bringing kids out at the shows we we're meant to play.

Weak

[horsehead]

there's nothing like laying the blame at someone elses door

[Ratrod]

I completely understand. Seen it happen before. Had similar experiences.

I walked out on my last band because of a difference in what the band should be.

I wanted rawk-a-billy. They wanted nostalgia/wedding band.

[bucketshred]

Thanks for the support for my decision. It's good to know its not just me being mental.

We're planning some kinda of last show since we had a lot of requests to do so. Should be in London, should be crazy.

Went to the Leeds madball show last night. Was band was meant to play it. It was the weakest most disturbing thing id seen for a while. I didn't pay in, just sat in the bar of the venue with a bunch of friends who did the same. ALL put off by the 12 pound door fee. It wasn't packed. Madball played well buy it was pretty dull. I peeped through the door to see a bit.

Promoter was £500 off madballs fee. Totally stupid. He couldn't even cover support bands petrol fees.

Hardcore in this country sucks. Such a lack of support for homegrown bands. It's all about using bands to pay americans stupidly high guarantees. Last night was joke for the money madball are on and I'm glad my band wasn't involved. People actually suggested my band breaking up damaged the madball tour by not bringing kids out at the shows we we're meant to play.

Weak

You're right on all counts here. The show we played with Madball was £13 on the door, the venue was basically an ex working mens club and the sound was awful. Far too muddy.

We were on just before Madball and compared to the other supports (and I'm really not trying to blow my own trumpet here) we were a lot better. One of the promoters thought we had been touring around for a couple of years (it was our forth show). A lot of the bands were far too samey with some skinny (or fat) kid running around the front pretending to be hard. We're a bit more of a Metal band in comparison so we didn't go down well AT ALL.

You're right, UKHC and Metal is in a terrible state were people think its cool to listen to and name drop the most obscure bands possible. As much as I'm for band supporting each other too its becoming far too cliquey for its own good. The amount of dirty looks we got for having a 'rockstar' in our band and being a bit more lively than the other bands was ridiculous. I'm sick of all the cr@p production on Hardcore records and overproduction on Metal records too. Sub Drops are for gays.

Paddy

EDIT: for the record, Madball and their stage crew are some of the scariest people I've ever seen in my life. Sound guys tho.

[Dmoney]

You have to remember that Birmingham was originally an all day thing with hardcore bands that had been around a while.  That promoter only kept bands that agreed to play for free. I think 6 or more bands wanted to show a united front and pulled out. So imagine the promoter got in whoever he thought would help him pay madballs fee without wanting pay themselves.

Hardcore is tight knit here in some ways. Lines are blurred now thanks to magazines and labels picking up certain bands. It just means its easy for some promoters to try and take advantage. You won't believe how many people have tried to cash in on my band splitting up for example.

We toured Europe so much, and the usa with so many legitimate bands without having to be on a big label. The stuff people get away with here is crazy. in the usa people would have been hospitalized for messing bands about.

The acting tough thing is annoying. But not all uk hardcore bands are pretending. Some dudes I've met are down to fight 24 7.

Real recognise real.

That's all you need to know.



P.s. I've met more scary dudes. Played with bulldoze once. Haha

[bucketshred]

You have to remember that Birmingham was originally an all day thing with hardcore bands that had been around a while.  That promoter only kept bands that agreed to play for free. I think 6 or more bands wanted to show a united front and pulled out. So imagine the promoter got in whoever he thought would help him pay madballs fee without wanting pay themselves.

Hardcore is tight knit here in some ways. Lines are blurred now thanks to magazines and labels picking up certain bands. It just means its easy for some promoters to try and take advantage. You won't believe how many people have tried to cash in on my band splitting up for example.

We toured Europe so much, and the usa with so many legitimate bands without having to be on a big label. The stuff people get away with here is crazy. in the usa people would have been hospitalized for messing bands about.

The acting tough thing is annoying. But not all uk hardcore bands are pretending. Some dudes I've met are down to fight 24 7.

Real recognise real.

That's all you need to know.



P.s. I've met more scary dudes. Played with bulldoze once. Haha

Yeh I know the situation with the Birmingham thing, I've seen the names of some of the bands pandered about for a while and was expecting a LOT more from what I saw.

I know the hardcore scene is tight knit and I'm not faulting that. It's just when bands seem a little too cliquey is when it does my head in. It also does my head in when another band just doesn't want to know.

I've seen a lot of promoters try and get away with horrendous things at times. Personally, I like to weigh everything up and decide how to handle the situation. I've had promoters be utter idiots and promoters be really nice to me at times, it just depends.

I don't even like to think of it as a case of 'real recognise real'. That comes across as too elitist for me. I prefer to think of 'hard work recognises hard work'

Paddy

[nfe]

Thanks for the support for my decision. It's good to know its not just me being mental.

We're planning some kinda of last show since we had a lot of requests to do so. Should be in London, should be crazy.

Went to the Leeds madball show last night. Was band was meant to play it. It was the weakest most disturbing thing id seen for a while. I didn't pay in, just sat in the bar of the venue with a bunch of friends who did the same. ALL put off by the 12 pound door fee. It wasn't packed. Madball played well buy it was pretty dull. I peeped through the door to see a bit.

Promoter was £500 off madballs fee. Totally stupid. He couldn't even cover support bands petrol fees.

Hardcore in this country sucks. Such a lack of support for homegrown bands. It's all about using bands to pay americans stupidly high guarantees. Last night was joke for the money madball are on and I'm glad my band wasn't involved. People actually suggested my band breaking up damaged the madball tour by not bringing kids out at the shows we we're meant to play.

Weak

You're right on all counts here. The show we played with Madball was £13 on the door, the venue was basically an ex working mens club and the sound was awful. Far too muddy.

We were on just before Madball and compared to the other supports (and I'm really not trying to blow my own trumpet here) we were a lot better. One of the promoters thought we had been touring around for a couple of years (it was our forth show). A lot of the bands were far too samey with some skinny (or fat) kid running around the front pretending to be hard. We're a bit more of a Metal band in comparison so we didn't go down well AT ALL.

You're right, UKHC and Metal is in a terrible state were people think its cool to listen to and name drop the most obscure bands possible. As much as I'm for band supporting each other too its becoming far too cliquey for its own good. The amount of dirty looks we got for having a 'rockstar' in our band and being a bit more lively than the other bands was ridiculous. I'm sick of all the cr@p production on Hardcore records and overproduction on Metal records too. Sub Drops are for gays.

Paddy

EDIT: for the record, Madball and their stage crew are some of the scariest people I've ever seen in my life. Sound guys tho.

There's a great read on this subject on the Terrorizer forum, albiet about death metal predominantly, but you can apply it to any scene.

http://www.terrorizer.com/main-forum/shameless-plugs/clanglestrim-pro-duck-shins-shows

The antagonist would certainly be one to denounce you because you've a mainstream metal star in your band. just like he hates Damnation Fest, a sellout, corporate event. You know, run by six cats with full time jobs who take no money out of it and don't even cover our own expenses  :lol:

[bucketshred]

Aye it's terrible. At the show on Sunday you could practically feel the daggers being shot our way.

Paddy

[Philly Q]

There's a great read on this subject on the Terrorizer forum, albiet about death metal predominantly, but you can apply it to any scene.

http://www.terrorizer.com/main-forum/shameless-plugs/clanglestrim-pro-duck-shins-shows

That was a bit like sitting quietly in a pub listening to a lot of shouty blokes having an argument.  In Serbo-Croat.

Look, I'm not into Extreme/Death/Black/Whatever Metal, and that Clanglestrim chap would probably be mortified that a non-underground southern wimp like me would even dare to read his thread, but I have to ask.....

These bands, I'm sure they're all super and sound nothing at all like each other.  But why have they all got exactly the same indecipherable potato-printing logo?

[murraymurray]

These bands, I'm sure they're all super and sound nothing at all like each other.  But why have they all got exactly the same indecipherable potato-printing logo?

Its even funnier when they have to have the name of the band printed underneath so you can actually see whos playing, rather than seeing the poster in the street and staring at it for 5 minutes like a magic eye poster trying to figure out what the f**k is goin on

[Dmoney]

that poster is pretty funny. haha