Author Topic: Keeley TS9 or SD-1? (Read 25842 times)

willo · « **Reply #15 on:** November 18, 2005, 07:57:13 PM »

Yeah I have the mini chorus too. It always surprises me just how good it sounds. :)

dave_mc · « **Reply #16 on:** November 18, 2005, 09:13:16 PM »

Quote from: tewboss

I wouldn't hesitate recommending his clone chorus to anyone. Even the drummer in my friends band commented how good it sounded.

:lol:

i think i'll take a look into those analogman pedals too...

EDIT: any idea where i can get a hold of those analogman pedals in the uk?

tewboss · « **Reply #17 on:** November 18, 2005, 09:57:31 PM »

nobody sells them in the uk unless you get one from ebay (although its not been unknown for fakes to be sold). i bought mine from analogman.com and although its not the same as trying it out yourself, they are damn good. the chorus is based on the EH Small Clone, but its not just a chip replacement rather the circuit board was designed from scratch. also its got a cool case!

if you are interested in effects, his work partner (analog tom) has a rather good book published which is mostly about vintage effects.

dave_mc · « **Reply #18 on:** November 18, 2005, 10:07:16 PM »

^it'd be the sd-1 mod i'd be interested in

and not being able to try it out isn't a major factor, i can't try the keeley one either

how much would it come to buying from the usa? i assume customs and vat would be about 22.5%, and postage would be about $25(it is on keeley's usa site to worldwide addresses)?

have you tried the keeley one too?

tewboss · « **Reply #19 on:** November 18, 2005, 10:25:27 PM »

To be honest I didn't pay much duty on it, as it wasn't an expensive pedal and A-man did something sneaky on the green sticker! the pedal wasn't much more expensive than buying a stock Boss pedal from here. postage was about the same as what Keeley quotes, but postage in the UK for a pedal is only half of what the US postage was.

i haven't tried Keeley's pedals, but i am sure they are very good indeed. its just my preference is Analogman. Keeley probably sells more - his website is easier to use as well so don't discount him.

dave_mc · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2005, 10:30:41 PM »

^yeah, i haven't tried either :(

to be honest, i'll probably just stick with the keeley one, since i can get it in the UK (that analogman mod with a switch to choose between symmetric and asymmetric clipping looks nice though!), and i figure i'd be happy with either, since i was pretty impressed with the stock sd-1 i tried...

thanks for the help, anyway, i appreciate it!

_tom_ · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2005, 11:14:14 PM »

Ratrod, another suggestion. V-Stack Tweed? Expensive though I guess.

tewboss · « **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2005, 12:42:52 AM »

Quote from: dave_mc

i was pretty impressed with the stock sd-1 i tried...

I know the Analogman modified pedals blows the stock pedals out the water (even the Japanese ones), so I expect the Keeley one would too.

dave_mc · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2005, 09:47:18 AM »

^ i suspect they will, so i'm assuming that since i won't get to try either the analogman one or the keeley one, they'll both be awesome, so i'll probably just go for the one that's easier to get a hold of (keeley)

thanks for the info, i appreciate it!

Floyd Pepper · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2005, 10:38:23 AM »

Keely's web old site is still up there and has the info on how he does his Boss SD-1 and DS-1 mods.

SD-1 http://www.robertkeeley.com/audio6l6/sd1mods.html
DS-1 http://www.robertkeeley.com/audio6l6/dstech.html

I did the mod on my SD-1 then compared it to an original and I prefer the modded version. It has more depth to the sound. It sounded more gritty, less smooth with more character. Haven't got round to modding my DS-1 yet.

Ratrod · « **Reply #25 on:** November 19, 2005, 11:46:11 AM »

The V-stack sounds good. Still pricey. Is it an overdrive unit or an amp simulator?

Off course I've checked out Analog Man too. To my ears the asymetrical clipping of the Boss sounds better. The Tube Sreamer sounds a bit boxy to me. (Both the Keeley and the Analog Man)

Has anyone had any experience with the Proco Rat II? (stock or modified)

The Keeley modded Rat sounded very impressive.

Lots of info, thanks guys!

_tom_ · « **Reply #26 on:** November 19, 2005, 12:20:14 PM »

I have a Keeley RAT 2 which I got cheapish off HJM. I really like it for low gain Led Zep style stuff but I dont really know what the "tweed" tone as such is so I cant really help that much :lol:

Ratrod · « **Reply #27 on:** November 19, 2005, 01:34:10 PM »

It's kinda hard to define the tweed sound because it means different thing to different people. Some would say it's SRV's tone but that's very different from Setzer's and the Rev's tone. The first is very bassy, middy and moody while the rockabilly tweed sound is more bright and agressive. Most of ZZ-top's work is done with old Fender amps so I would considder that tweed too. Most of the pedals that are made for the tweed sound seem to be made to replicate either SRV's or ZZ-Top's sound.

In my quest, I also found this: The Monster fxs El Dorado. I like that alot.

http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/swamp.php

soundclip: http://www.musictoyz.com/mp3/eld.mp3

willo · « **Reply #28 on:** November 19, 2005, 03:44:21 PM »

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that analogman mod with a switch to choose between symmetric and asymmetric clipping looks nice though!),

he he, thats my one!

I'd post you some clips but I have no means of recording right now. Keep an eye out on ebay.co.uk - its interesting because whereas Keeley is pretty prevalent over here, Analogman seems quite unknown, so whereas with Keeley you get sucked into buying battles with people with more money than sense (Ive seen Keeley's go for £10 less than the price to buy new??), with Analogman you can sometimes really snaffle a good bargain. I saw the DS1 Pro mod he does go for £60 once, whereas the Keeley DS1 SE's tend to go for upwards of £90.

I actually bought my SD1-808 off HJM on here. He's played both Keeley and A-man...I seem to remember asking him about what they sounded like in comparison, he said they were very similar but the Keeley was 'hairier' (i think he said that)?

With regards to other overdrives, I remember hearing the Aramat Green Machine and thinking it sounded incredible, and the same with the Sobbat Drive Breaker II. Remember if you're worried about import tax/VAT, you could buy something like this from within the EU and not have to pay duty. It was in a German shop that I was checking out the Drivebreaker FWIW.

tewboss · « **Reply #29 on:** November 20, 2005, 06:57:36 PM »

I've got an Analogman modified Metalzone, although I haven't really given it a proper test yet. It's supposed to be a Dual Rectifier ish sound, compared with the DS1/Pro which is a Marshall stack in pedal sound. Keeley also does the modified metalzone but there wasnt a sound clip when I bought mine from Analogman - plus I didn't like the ugly switch on the pedal.

I can't remember how I found out about Analogman to be honest. It could have been when I bought my memory man as I ended up buying it from him. At least you know he would have tested it before he ships it unlike EH themselves - I've got a valve Hot Tubes I bought from new which is faulty. It has a really nasty oscillating sound when the gain is increased.