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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2009, 11:44:26 AM »

Might it be that the whole thing was kind of shooting backwards as both, the originally intended xmas #1 and the actual RATM are signed under the same label: Sony
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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2009, 12:52:10 PM »
Aye, I did mention that in the other thread, heh. Apparently it's more about the message than being against Sony BMG / Simon Cowell per se.

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2009, 05:26:40 PM »
But I can list several shows on the BBC that I enjoy whereas I can name just one on ITV so that's my justification for praising the BBC.

yeah, but itv is total shite (now, anyway- some of its older shows were good).

and just because it makes an odd good programme doesn't necessarily mean it's great. but it certainly has a lot more good programmes than itv. though itv does show mission impossible, the world is not enough, (help me out here philly, i can't remember any others!) etc. about every 3 weeks :lol:

I think commercial owned media has it in for the BBC, and to some degree I think the government does also.

oh yeah, of course, and i don't really give their arguments any credence. At least, I might accept that they might have a slight point, but that they're also going to be extremely biased.

Might it be that the whole thing was kind of shooting backwards as both, the originally intended xmas #1 and the actual RATM are signed under the same label: Sony

not really, the stated aim was to stop x factor getting the christmas #1, with a fairly symbolic song, and it succeeded. When trying something which everyone says is impossible, you sometimes have to make sure you win to prove a point. Next year we can try some tiny unsigned band and see how far that gets... ;)

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2009, 06:44:50 PM »
though itv does show mission impossible, the world is not enough, (help me out here philly, i can't remember any others!) etc. about every 3 weeks :lol:

The Mummy 1 & 2, The Scorpion King, Die Hard 1 & 2, Along Came Polly.  That's pretty much the entire ITV2 movie catalogue.  :wink:

Although during the Christmas period they've expanded their repertoire by re-showing films which were on ITV1 a few days earlier.
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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2009, 08:13:16 PM »
not really, the stated aim was to stop x factor getting the christmas #1, with a fairly symbolic song, and it succeeded. When trying something which everyone says is impossible, you sometimes have to make sure you win to prove a point. Next year we can try some tiny unsigned band and see how far that gets... ;)
so do you know the guy who started the facebook page pushing for this? If so, is he now loaded off a nice payout for services to sony?

take a look at the sony wikipedia page. there is a whole section entitled controversy. First heading under that is about them having a ficticious movie reviewer to boost ratings, and now they have a ficiticious rage against the machine fan, thats how i see it anyway
but when it comes down to it i really dont care, ive never seen xfactor or heard any of its winners, and i dont listen to RATM

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2009, 09:04:18 PM »
Tin foil hat time!
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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2009, 09:36:08 PM »
what, so you think the music industry isnt devious?

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2009, 09:52:34 PM »
Of course, but it's a leap to assume that a facebook group started by some cat and his wife who tried last year as well are on a massive bung for getting RATM to number one.

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2009, 09:57:21 PM »
i heard Sony BMG was stood suspiciously near the grassy knoll when JFK took a bullet.

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2009, 10:20:47 PM »
Wikipedia is always right...

I think describing music industry as a whole as being devious is being very unkind, it's far worse than you imagine!

I've got a slightly bias view as my partner worked in the industry in several different roles for about 15 years. However I don't think it's any worse than any other industry where companies are trying to maximise their profits.
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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2009, 10:24:44 PM »
One think I think we can all agree on is that Cowell and his company SyCO are ####!!s.
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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2009, 10:26:42 PM »
I've got a slightly bias view as my partner worked in the industry in several different roles for about 15 years. However I don't think it's any worse than any other industry where companies are trying to maximise their profits.

I agree with this. I've heard of certain amp manufacturer posting fake harmony central reviews to boost sales before, I think the music industry at top levels is gonna be pretty competitive and therefore cutthroat. This is why people should get into starting there own labels. press some vinyl! take it out the hand of big business. listen to what Raybeez said!

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2009, 12:39:04 AM »
I've heard of certain amp manufacturer posting fake harmony central reviews to boost sales before

They do a pretty good job of writing just like 15 year old emo fans.
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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2009, 12:43:17 AM »
well, they got found out and it was put down to a rogue PR employee.

good emo is good. although emo as a term is ridiculous. The band Embrace (dischord records) for example

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Re: So what's the thing with RATM being #1 in UK with Killing in the name...?
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2009, 12:53:43 AM »
good emo is good. although emo as a term is ridiculous. The band Embrace (dischord records) for example

Yeah, I didn't mean being an emo fan is bad (15 years old or 50).  I was just observing in my smart-arsey way that a lot of HC reviews are by people who don't seem to have played a lot of different gear for comparison purposes.

I don't really know much about emo, to be honest.  I like Sunny Day Real Estate.
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