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Is it just me...
« on: January 03, 2010, 09:25:14 AM »
... or does anyone else struggle with band names in the "Pickups" section of this forum?

I love to read it, but it's nearly always something along the lines of:

"Hi - can anyone help me?  I can't decide if I need a Warpig, a Painkiller or a Holy Diver.  I want to sound like the guitarist from 'Anal Itching', or maybe 'Thrush Baby', or 'Broken Twig'"...

I must be soooo out of touch!!!
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 10:31:36 AM »
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2010, 10:55:55 AM »
I have little clue about most of these new, I believe it's called "heavy mental" music beat combos either.  

In all seriousness though looking through guitar mags, especially the American ones, and checking out the ads they seem to fall into two categories: old geezers and metal bands.  Perhaps these are the only two groups who get into gear in a big way? I don't really see, "Johnny Borrell plays Brand X pickups" ads appearing soon.  I'm generalising grossly here but it looks like indie/rock/etc. bands get the guitar and are done with it whereas metallers seem to be tweakers with their own guitars, pickups, strings and so on. So using the metal or old geezers grouping (I feel a Venn diagram coming on) those would be the two sorts of folks you'd expect to appear in the Pickups forum, and I'd say that was a reasonable approximation of what happens.

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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 11:33:45 AM »
:lol:

It's not just you.

I've started playing a game with myself on these particular pickup threads -"Guess the Pickup recommendation".

Seeing as I've never heard any of these bands, nor indeed tried any of the appropriate BKPs, I get it right a surprising number of times...

There's a variation on the game called "Guess who will join the thread to make recommendations" - this can be played on any thread in the Pickups section. I realised that there was potential for this version of the game when I noticed that I automatically respond to any thread where the answer could be "Blackguards" or "Irish Tours" :lol:
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 01:19:54 PM »
In all seriousness though looking through guitar mags, especially the American ones, and checking out the ads they seem to fall into two categories: old geezers and metal bands.  Perhaps these are the only two groups who get into gear in a big way? I don't really see, "Johnny Burrell plays Brand X pickups" ads appearing soon.  I'm generalising grossly here but it looks like indie/rock/etc. bands get the guitar and are done with it whereas metallers seem to be tweakers with their own guitars, pickups, strings and so on. So using the metal or old geezers grouping (I feel a Venn diagram coming on) those would be the two sorts of folks you'd expect to appear in the Pickups forum, and I'd say that was a reasonable approximation of what happens.

Good post!  I guess, perhaps, it says something about the types of personalities who are drawn to different musical styles.  Generalising grossly (as you said), but many musicians in other genres genuinely seem to regard their instruments as "just tools" and are more interested in what they can get out of them as opposed to what they can change about them (I do suspect for some, the "just tools" thing is a bit of a pose and secretly they're gear nerds like the rest of us!!).

Personally I used to call myself a metal fan but now (a) metal has evolved into something I no longer recognise and (b) the passage of time has, inevitably, turned me into an old geezer.  So, to an extent, I'd be pretty comfortable in one of the overlapping areas of that Venn diagram.  Which is probably why I'm still buying guitar mags.

On those "Pickups" threads, I usually recognise the band names but I've only rarely heard any of their music.  I guess in another few years it'll be like reading Greek.   :|
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 01:35:51 PM »
:lol:

I have no idea about most of the metal bands people mention here! Don't even visit the pickup forum any more unless I've got a question :P

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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 03:58:13 PM »
Someone asked how to get the tone of the Skid Row (usa) albums.... I was all over that sh1t!  :P

Ask about Goat Colostomy / Dildo of Valhalla --- F**k knows  :? :? :?

I just end up talking rubbish in the dressing room till someone who remembers when music attracted Hot Girls and the cool dudes used hairspray and drank Jack turns up with a Kramer or BC Rich.  :D
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 05:06:49 PM »
Someone asked how to get the tone of the Skid Row (usa) albums.... I was all over that sh1t!  :P

Ask about Goat Colostomy / Dildo of Valhalla --- F**k knows  :? :? :?

I just end up talking rubbish in the dressing room till someone who remembers when music attracted Hot Girls and the cool dudes used hairspray and drank Jack turns up with a Kramer or BC Rich.  :D

Dave, you're giving an idea for another thread...
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 06:04:02 PM »
Goat Colostomy / Dildo of Valhalla?

Didn't someone put those in the best bands of the decade thread?
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 08:52:03 PM »
i haven't heard of most of those more extreme metal bands either. i would add, though, that on UG a lot of the people are asking about indie, alternative, post-rock (i wasn't aware it was over) etc. bands which I haven't heard of either.

regarding the indie bands, maybe it's because a lot of the mid-price gear will do indie fairly well out of the box? i mean, i reckon i could get a fairly decent indie/mid-low gain guitar setup with about £500. I wouldn't say the same for metal, heck i wouldn't even expect to get the amp for that.


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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 09:16:49 PM »

It's me too.  I occationally follow a link to a youtube clip and I always hear the same detuned chugging with the same guy shouting in a really low voice sounding a bit like the Exorcist. 

I don't really like what I hear but to be fair I don't know much about these genres, I'm sure if I went to the right gigs, listened to the right albums I'd get it a bit more.  Things might sound a little more brootal at a gig rather than through my laptop speakers.

I don't know my deathcore from my doom, as they say....

Then again I watch rednecks chicken' pickin' on telecasters so it's probably too late for me to understand.....


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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 09:25:03 PM »
Great stuff Dave  :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 10:21:39 PM »
I don't know my deathcore from my doom, as they say....

If it sounds a bit like Sabbath, it's doom, pretty much. :lol:

There's actually probably more variety in metal than in any other genre I can think of (provided you don't consider "world music" a genre, which you shouldn't, 'cause it's a ridiculous umbrella term) there's a breadth within it that doesn't really exist in anything else, at least insofar as I've discovered. The "it all sounds alike" thing just smacks of ignorance, to me. I know nobody is strictly saying that, but I can see it coming.

Regards having not heard of bands, well, is it surprising? Extreme metal isn't exactly widely publicised. In saying that, I can't think of more than a couple of occasions when someone has actually mentioned an extreme metal band on this forum other than four regulars.

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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2010, 11:39:53 PM »
Why do we feel the need to compartmentalise everything into genres and have everything neatly arranged into its correct pigeon hole? I suppose it makes finding similar bands or songs a bit easier. However looking up extreme metal on Wikipedia gave me this page, I don't know if this is representative but it seems that it's sub-genre after sub-genre, where does it stop?

It's all music to me, or is there a fundamental difference between some generic Euro dance song, a song that's classed as extreme metal and something a bit random like 'In C' or 'A Rainbow in a curved air' by Terry Riley? 
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Re: Is it just me...
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2010, 11:49:48 PM »
Yeah it's the bloody "Clique-yness" of it all with sub-tribal affiliations and their own self-defined nomenclature...

Just make or listen to some music and get over yourself.... YOU WILL BE OLD TOO SOON!  :P :lol: :lol:
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