Author Topic: cr@ppy amp tone... (Read 5377 times)

badgermark · « **on:** November 22, 2005, 05:16:02 PM »

alrighty, before i start i'm not looking for any tube amp snobs looking down their noses at me, or anyones negative views on the amp in question, just a straight answer should suffice :D

anyway. i recently swapped a mg250dfx for a peavey bandit 112 (the new transtube model (no efxs)) and it sounds utter cr@p with any stomp boxes.

i have the clean channel set up really well, it seems unable to sound bad, but as soon as i bring my trusty ds-2 into the equation it sounds pretty awful. it's just boxy and cr@p sounding, and changing the eq doesnt seem to make much of a difference.

is there anything wrong with this? or does it just sound cr@p anyway? i know you cant polish a turd, but i got a pretty good tone out of the mg, but had to swap down for a 1x12 due to transport issues.

can anyone help? or do i get the 2x12 marshall back?

oh and im using a gibson sg and a epi les paul through it if thats any use.

dave_mc · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2005, 05:38:18 PM »

some amps just don't take pedals well, the bandit may be one of these (i haven't tried it, so i'm not sure)

Searcher · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2005, 06:05:50 PM »

I've owned and used a bunch of Peavey amps and I hate them. From my perspective, the sound is cr@p. I would never buy another one.

chrisola · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2005, 06:32:48 PM »

Only low end peavey i;ve heard was one of the Bandit ones (are they transtube aswell??) wasnt that good, but the guy playing it had it dialled... he had the knack to getting a great sound from most amps..

BUT he played a black 25\50th Anniversary LP Custom with a factory fit Khaler trem (it had a gold anniversary inlaid headstock.. was sweet.. a neck from one of these just went on ebay for $701 lol!) , probably the BEST guitar i;ve ever heard\had a quick go on... and only 1 i've ever seen :P

the Marshalls are a bit better sounding imo..

maybe your pedals batteries are low?..

tewboss · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2005, 07:04:11 PM »

The trouble is that overdrive and distortion pedals work best with tube amps. Doesn't the dirty channel sound good enough?

I've just thought that my Danelectro Black Paisley did sound good with my valvestate unlike any of the others. Perhaps you could try that one if you are into high-gain stuff. It's one of the better Danelectro pedals and had some really cool features - I lent mind to a friend so I better get it back.

Johnny Mac · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2005, 07:05:44 PM »

I had a Peavey Backstage for years and it never sounded good. I'd say you would be better off with a Marshall Tranny amp if that's your budget. Those ones with the tube in the pre-amp sounded miles better than my old Peavey.

Ratrod · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2005, 07:38:31 PM »

I never liked the Peavey Trannies nor the boss distortion. I think you should have gone for a Marshall AVT. No need for distortion pedals with that one.

badgermark · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2005, 07:45:00 PM »

well the onboard distortion is cr@p too, its all muffled and far too buzzy and gain-ey. im not really into high gain stuff at all, thats why i like the ds-2, its nice and raw. i'll probably get the marshall back, luckily i swapped with my dad and not some music shop.

to be honest ive never been impressed with tube amps, ive played dsl's and 900's in rehersall rooms before, and always went for the roland jazz chorus if i had the chance. even a (probably very modded) jmc800 never floated my boat.

thanks a lot guys, this is probably the first board i've posted on where if you have under 100 posts you either get ignored or shot down in flames. i'll get back to lurking and wondering if i should pimp up my sg with some bkps...

tewboss · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:08:11 PM »

Did you have the tube amps on near full volume, as this is where you get the best tone? (hope that doesn't sound patronising)

I suppose the solid state marshalls do sound raw, but thats why I didn't like mine too much. Mine just sounded too fizzy and not enough bass weight, but then I am into heavy stuff.

Marshall's Shredmaster (the name is a bit offputting) pedal is held in high regard, so I wonder whether that would be more you sort of sound? Johnny Greenwood uses one and his sound is very raw. They are hard to find now, and aren't cheap anymore.

badgermark · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2005, 08:20:36 PM »

yeah the volumes were up at 8 or 9, with the clean gain up at 5 or 6...

and i was really happy with my marshalls tone, didnt seem coloured much, i get to crank the peavey tomorrow, if it still doesnt impress me its outta here :shock:

thanks for the help :D

Searcher · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2005, 09:16:27 PM »

Quote from: badgermark

to be honest ive never been impressed with tube amps, ive played dsl's and 900's in rehersall rooms before, and always went for the roland jazz chorus if i had the chance. even a (probably very modded) jmc800 never floated my boat.

If you prefer the JC sound over those Marshalls, then perhaps you'll like tube amps that are more known for their clean sounds. The JC isn't a fair comparison to a JCM800, because the sounds aren't that alike.

dave_mc · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2005, 11:44:26 AM »

Quote from: Ratrod

I never liked the Peavey Trannies nor the boss distortion. I think you should have gone for a Marshall AVT. No need for distortion pedals with that one.

i wouldn't go for an avt, i hate those with a vengeance! (i have one, before you guys flame me)

poor feel, not great tone, noisy, doesn't take od pedals to boost the tone AT ALL (sound cuts out etc.) etc....

stay well clear, if you want my advice!

badgermark · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2005, 12:33:39 PM »

well after consulting a friend who has the same amp and loves it to death, i think ive got it sounding decent :) thanks a lot for all the help guys.

rsterren · « **Reply #13 on:** November 23, 2005, 02:33:10 PM »

well the peavey is a solidstate amp, dont set the level of the pedal to high, a solid state preamp dosnt react well to high input levels.
the boss pedal may not give you a satisfying tone if it dousnt drive a tube preamp, try a pedal that shapes the tone more, a pedal with a contour knob or something like that will suit you more i guess.