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Ian Price

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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #105 on: February 10, 2010, 04:56:45 PM »
Believe me, if I had the coin I'd have bought an Aged/Signed Pearly.

Stupid price though - I think that one at GV will sit there for quite a while.  Especially as it looks like it hasn't got much of a flame top...

Very silly price - they will knock quite a bit off in their April sale I imagine.

Also, their photos are really bad quality. I'm not sure what they do with them but they really need to get someone who knows what they are doing. Compare them with any other 'high end' guitar sellers and the difference in quality of photo is huge.
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #106 on: February 10, 2010, 05:57:41 PM »
nice amp and pedal as well
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #107 on: February 10, 2010, 06:46:43 PM »
Also, their photos are really bad quality. I'm not sure what they do with them but they really need to get someone who knows what they are doing. Compare them with any other 'high end' guitar sellers and the difference in quality of photo is huge.

Yeah, they probably have a really old low-res digital camera which needs replacing!

But at least they have photos... apart from Peach and Guitars4you I can't think of any retailers who have really good photos on their sites, and a lot don't have photos at all.  Funnily enough, that's one area where eBay is a lot better than most shops.
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #108 on: February 10, 2010, 08:12:39 PM »
World guitars used to do decent photos - not checked them for a while. Agree that not many do photos though. Very odd considering they are trying to sell stuff online - I would have thought the difference between a sale and no sale would be on decent photos. Perhaps I'm wrong.
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #109 on: February 11, 2010, 09:44:25 PM »
Wow nice guitar, but holy shite! I just saw the price! Did you swap it for your 1st born?
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #110 on: February 11, 2010, 11:59:38 PM »
Nah, my Ducati when I get around to selling it  ;)

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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #111 on: February 12, 2010, 05:36:43 AM »
Wow nice guitar, but holy shitee! I just saw the price! Did you swap it for your 1st born?

Well gotta see it like this: a real burst would cost around 100 to 200 times what this Les Paul cost. So it's an amazing bargain!

Also, go and buy a good Cello or Violin and see how much that is.

More and more I am also inclined to spend big money on a proper guitar - this is mainly driven from a recent experience of playing a Tylerbaster (Tyler Guitars Telecaster type) - wow! Unfortunately James isn't building Teles anymore (he has now his own design in the "Mongoose"). So I am still considering options and waiting for the right one to come up.

Well as Dave's disposable income at the moment allows for acquisitions like this, I think he is very right to invest. Who knows how things turn in life and tomorrow it might have been an opportunity lost.

Dude I would love to give that guitar a test ride! Let me know in case one of your bands are on Tour in Belgium ;)
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #112 on: February 12, 2010, 08:22:31 AM »
More and more I am also inclined to spend big money on a proper guitar

I knew you'd come around!  Playing and upgrading cheaper guitars is great fun, and I still enjoy doing that, but ultimately you need good quality woods and top build quality to get the best instrument.

You're welcome to try it out any time you're here in the UK matey, let me know if you're ever in the country and we'll meet up  :)

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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #113 on: February 12, 2010, 10:41:09 AM »
Yes, you can buy me that beer in person!  8)
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #114 on: February 12, 2010, 10:50:37 AM »
Well gotta see it like this: a real burst would cost around 100 to 200 times what this Les Paul cost. So it's an amazing bargain!

Really?  They cost £500,000 to £1,000,000?  :o

If that's true, I don't care what anyone says, it's utterly ridiculous.
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #115 on: February 12, 2010, 10:53:59 AM »
I believe they run around $300,000 to $400,000 without an artist association, and more money for the better looking ones.

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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #116 on: February 12, 2010, 12:31:14 PM »
Time to refinish it in blue?
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #117 on: February 12, 2010, 12:56:40 PM »
Looks great Dave, hope you enjoy it!

Playing and upgrading cheaper guitars is great fun, and I still enjoy doing that, but ultimately you need good quality woods and top build quality to get the best instrument.

Sorry if I'm taking this the wrong way, and I mean no offence at all by what I'm about to say as we seem to have always gotten on the few times we've met and you seem like a decent bloke :), but is this really implying that anything less than £4k - £5k etc is a 'cheaper' guitar and not necessarilly made of decent materials and not built well?

If that's the case then it's a bit in bad taste imo as few of us (as far as I know atleast) can afford anything near that for a single guitar and have to 'make do' with what we have. I don't know many people that would consider a £1000 - £2000 guitar cheap!

Anyways, sorry for the rant but just something I needed to get off my chest as it's something I come across quite often on a few other forums I go on and is a bit pet peeve of mine :lol:

Again, it's an awesome looking guitar and hope you enjoy it for many years to come!  :D
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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #118 on: February 12, 2010, 01:22:43 PM »
Certainly a very purty lookin' geetar!

but tell me this, is that going to be used for performing or just a trophy guitar?

but either way definatley congratulations!

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Re: May I introduce "Francine"... (NGD, now with clip!)
« Reply #119 on: February 12, 2010, 01:52:56 PM »
Sorry if I'm taking this the wrong way, and I mean no offence at all by what I'm about to say as we seem to have always gotten on the few times we've met and you seem like a decent bloke :), but is this really implying that anything less than £4k - £5k etc is a 'cheaper' guitar and not necessarilly made of decent materials and not built well?

If that's the case then it's a bit in bad taste imo as few of us (as far as I know atleast) can afford anything near that for a single guitar and have to 'make do' with what we have. I don't know many people that would consider a £1000 - £2000 guitar cheap!

Brow - sorry matey, I didn't mean what I said to come across in any way "high and mighty" and belittle anyone on this here good forum  :)

It's this old cost vs tone thing, that people have different views on.  My own personal view is that the quality of the wood, and the preparation of it for making a guitar, is everything.  The people who seem to get this consistently right seem to be the likes of Suhr/Fender CS/PRS/Martin acoustics etc.  They tend to cost a bit more, in part due to the higher cost of the raw materials, plus cost of the time spent sorting, drying and grading the wood.  The less desireable wood gets passed to the cheaper guitars.  Fender is a prime example here, using a sliding scale of Custom Shop/USA reissue/USA/Highway One/Mexican.

There are great guitars at all price points, but I've found the better tone and more inspiring instruments for me to be the more expensive ones.  By that, I mean the £1000+ price range.

And just for sake of the newer folks here on the board, I own a range of guitars from Francine at £5k down to an Epiphone SG which cost me £375 (before I started upgrading it).  I regularly gig the Epi in my 'DC band, and have no plans to swap it for anything else.

DemosKratia - the Les Paul will be regularly played, and will definitely get out for a gig now and again  :)
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