Slash & Cypress Hill redo Paradise City...

[Supernaught]

Not sure if anyones seen this yet but Slash has got Cypress Hill and someone called Fergie (who Ive never heard of) to collaberate on a remake of Paradise City for his new solo album.

The intro is just plain WRONG.   It sucks so much ass.   20 seconds in it does get better, and I like that its been made a bit heavier than the original.     Some of the sung vocals (Fergie i presume?) are really nice too IMO.

Im a big fan of rap metal so this probably appeals to me more than it would if I was just a straight rock/GnR fan, although I wouldnt exactly rate it that highly.

Anyway, see what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptTDsdri_OY

[Philly Q]

I'll have to waiut until I get home to see the video, but have you really never heard of Fergie?

[Supernaught]

Unless youre talking about the fat ginger tax money waster, then nope, never.

[Dmoney]

i think ive seen this before.
If it's what im think then it's pretty entertaining if a bit weird. Rap metal in general is a bit bad I find. I don't mind bands with hip hop influences but sometimes it's just odd.

cyprus hill + biohazard on state of the world address. How It Is. hard song!
Onyx + Biohazard... maybe not so good.

Stuck Mojo... a lot of material is borderline aweful esoecially the recent stuff.

E Town Concrete... AMAZING!

Slash + Cyprus Hill is a novel PR idea

[Philly Q]

Unless youre talking about the fat ginger tax money waster, then nope, never.

To be fair, she's a thin ginger tax money waster nowadays. 

Fergie is Stacy Ferguson from the Black Eyed Peas.  I obviously hang out with too many pop fans.  :lol:

[sgmypod]

Was going to say fergie ferg..weirdly thing that annoys me mot is the guitar sound

[Dr. Stein]

Oh lord. The guitar tone is indeed awful. Is slash doing a signature SS marshall now or what?

Rapping things that weren't designed to be rapped never works. Ever. Rap is all about rhythm (if it's about anything at all other than making ugly talentless people rich) and proper lyrics just don't lend themselves to the kind of rhythm required.

That said, at least it's bad enough I'll probably never have to hear it again. That's the best thing about this cover I think.

[Dmoney]

Rap is all about rhythm (if it's about anything at all other than making ugly talentless people rich) and proper lyrics just don't lend themselves to the kind of rhythm required.

if it's about anything at all? 'proper' lyrics?
are you suggesting hip hop doesn't have any meaningful lyrics or topics associated with it?

[nfe]

Oh lord. The guitar tone is indeed awful. Is slash doing a signature SS marshall now or what?

Rapping things that weren't designed to be rapped never works. Ever. Rap is all about rhythm (if it's about anything at all other than making ugly talentless people rich) and proper lyrics just don't lend themselves to the kind of rhythm required.

That said, at least it's bad enough I'll probably never have to hear it again. That's the best thing about this cover I think.

Music I don't like is rubbish! It's talentless! They don't have proper lyrics! Wah Wah Waaaaaaaah!

Wheesht, you dafty. :roll:

[Philly Q]

Oh lord. The guitar tone is indeed awful. Is slash doing a signature SS marshall now or what?

Rapping things that weren't designed to be rapped never works. Ever. Rap is all about rhythm (if it's about anything at all other than making ugly talentless people rich) and proper lyrics just don't lend themselves to the kind of rhythm required.

That said, at least it's bad enough I'll probably never have to hear it again. That's the best thing about this cover I think.

Music I don't like is rubbish! It's talentless! They don't have proper lyrics! Wah Wah Waaaaaaaah!

Wheesht, you dafty. :roll:

I'm guessing Dr. Stein might say:

To avoid confusion, please assume all words above are jovial and follow the prefix "In my opinion".

[Dr. Stein]

Wow. I've heard the human brain struggles with 'of', didn't know 'if' caused problems too...

In terms of exposure, rap as a genre of music has a massively high percentage of talentless 'artists'. I doubt many would disagree with that. Hence the parenthesis. Simple.

Lyrics, definitionally, are to be sung. Categorising rap vocals as singing is at least as problematic as categorising a lot of rap tracks as music. Very much a borderline case. Hence 'proper'.

For the record, I'm not big on rap generally, but I do quite like a number of things which I don't refer to as "music" or "lyrics". Ice cream, for example, is quite plainly not music, but I still like it. I don't consider "it's not music" a derogatory expression.

Also, what Philly Q said.

[Dmoney]

In terms of exposure, rap as a genre of music has a massively high percentage of talentless 'artists'. I doubt many would disagree with that. Hence the parenthesis. Simple.

Same as most genre's of music/entertainment.

Lyrics, definitionally, are to be sung. Categorising rap vocals as singing is at least as problematic as categorising a lot of rap tracks as music. Very much a borderline case. Hence 'proper'.

Really? Honestly?

For the record, I'm not big on rap generally, but I do quite like a number of things which I don't refer to as "music" or "lyrics". Ice cream, for example, is quite plainly not music, but I still like it. I don't consider "it's not music" a derogatory expression.

You don't consider hiphop music? is that what you're saying?

[nfe]

Oh lord. The guitar tone is indeed awful. Is slash doing a signature SS marshall now or what?

Rapping things that weren't designed to be rapped never works. Ever. Rap is all about rhythm (if it's about anything at all other than making ugly talentless people rich) and proper lyrics just don't lend themselves to the kind of rhythm required.

That said, at least it's bad enough I'll probably never have to hear it again. That's the best thing about this cover I think.

Music I don't like is rubbish! It's talentless! They don't have proper lyrics! Wah Wah Waaaaaaaah!

Wheesht, you dafty. :roll:

I'm guessing Dr. Stein might say:

To avoid confusion, please assume all words above are jovial and follow the prefix "In my opinion".

Er, yes, as might I...

Wow. I've heard the human brain struggles with 'of', didn't know 'if' caused problems too...

In terms of exposure, rap as a genre of music has a massively high percentage of talentless 'artists'. I doubt many would disagree with that. Hence the parenthesis. Simple.

Lyrics, definitionally, are to be sung. Categorising rap vocals as singing is at least as problematic as categorising a lot of rap tracks as music. Very much a borderline case. Hence 'proper'.

For the record, I'm not big on rap generally, but I do quite like a number of things which I don't refer to as "music" or "lyrics". Ice cream, for example, is quite plainly not music, but I still like it. I don't consider "it's not music" a derogatory expression.

Also, what Philly Q said.

The majority of people within any musical movement are always going to be fairly talentless individuals riding on the coattails of others, that really goes without saying, so bothering to mention it tends to reveal bias, you wrote it in a fashion that suggests that almost all hip hop has no worth, and that's fairly silly, you know you did that because you wanted to have a wee dig at it, and did it intentionally, so stand behind it! :P

I'd define lyrics as any words annunciated over music, myself. As I'd imagine most people would. Are you really saying only words which are sung are "Proper lyrics"  :? ie. the majority of, say, Leonard Cohen's songs don't have proper lyrics?

[Ratrod]

Insane in da brain!

This reminds me of that South Park episode where George Lucas and Steven Spielberg are raping their movie characters.

In a jovial manner and followed by IMO: RAP=cr@p

[Dr. Stein]

I'd define lyrics as any words annunciated over music, myself. As I'd imagine most people would. Are you really saying only words which are sung are "Proper lyrics"  :? ie. the majority of, say, Leonard Cohen's songs don't have proper lyrics?

Both definitions exist, take your pick.


I don't like rap, I've said as much, but I can't be arsed getting into an argument about its overall artistic merit on the internet. All I'm saying is that there is a reasonable argument that a significant proportion of modern hiphop should not be classified as music, mainly due to lack of melody. It's an open question.