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Author Topic: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.  (Read 6143 times)

Fourth Feline

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Phew !

Please bear with me chaps ; I have been trying to find different ways of handling this melody ( and sections thereof ) - and have run through it till I can't really hear it objectively anymore .  :? So if you would give a quick listen and tell me what worked for you ( if anything  :lol: ) or not - I would be grateful and thus can can look at it again later.  Be warned, it has an  even more protracted 'musical' introduction than this written one .  Thanks for your patience .

http://www.box.net/shared/9utu0tiv4i

For the B.K.P pickup samplers ; this is an Alnico II Stormy Monday neck pickup in an Ibanez AF75 - no amp simulation , just interfaced into the home P.C via Tracktion software.

I promise to desist after this one - and let the Players section revert to 'normal' music...  :mrgreen:

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tomeo808

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 10:05:43 AM »
Thanks for the post.  I have the same model Ibanez.  Installed a old SD '59 from my L5 which improved the sound.  I think I will have to consider the Stormy Mondays.  Have started a new topic in pickups - "advice on BKPU for '74 L5 CES" and wondered if you had any thoughts?

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 12:42:12 PM »
keep 'em coming ff, there's no such thing as 'normal' in music and it's good to have a bit of variety especially
when it has clean content. your tone's great and as anyone who has ever tried, pieces like this are very hard to master.good post :D

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 12:44:30 PM »
Very cool!! I like it!!

Fourth Feline

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2011, 01:07:00 PM »
Thank you Gentlemen . :)

To be honest, this thread has been kindly 'Bumped' from last year by Tomeo808, but has done me a great favour, as I had not been spending as much time on the instrument as I should have. I'm currently working on the last stages of 'All The Things You Are' - and will next do 'The Nearness Of You' - which I will eventually post . Much of the delay ( in addition to spending too much time my 'other' hobby) - has been because I am trying to make each new song / arrangement - a vehicle for expanding my Chord vocabulary and techniques- and go back over the existing stuff , to polish and improve them.

Thank you again to all who posted for providing me with a much needed 'Wake up call'.  :)

Ian Price

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 04:50:27 PM »
Yep - I like that.

Really wish I had more time on my hands to develop a little repeating melody I play into something with more substance. My limited chord knowledge (and time) is preventing me from doing it.

Perhaps if I ever get round to recording it I could approach you for some thoughts.
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I think I hate being indecisive.

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 05:28:19 PM »
Lovely tone and playing there Derek - I don't think I could ever play that restrained!

Fourth Feline

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2011, 05:51:51 PM »
Yep - I like that.

Really wish I had more time on my hands to develop a little repeating melody I play into something with more substance. My limited chord knowledge (and time) is preventing me from doing it.

Perhaps if I ever get round to recording it I could approach you for some thoughts.

Cheers Ian !

Yes, I would certainly be happy to share some thoughts on your Melody - and how I tend to go about hanging things on it e.t.c. Be warned, mine is not a very 'schooled' approach ( due to a serious  lack of 'school'  :lol: ) . At the outset of my little project , I just had to find a way to begin experimenting - and although I might try and add more adventurous chords and ideas as I develop, it's still been the same aural 'Lego' set approach .

In straight terms ;  I tend to play through a small section of the basic chord progression in it's most accessibe form , seeing  where the melody notes land , or could land / be alluded to - then have fun trying to move chord shapes and fingerings under , over , or through the melody notes - that seem to satisfy the ear.  As a result , I often find that 'exotic' and technically correct substitutions get accidentally used - or that ( surprise , surprise ! ) many of our basic chords sit there far better than using exotic for the sake of using exotic.

The crux of it is ( for me) just finding the chord that expresses the emotion required of that melody note, and / or it's relationship to that which preceeds and follows it.  

Two things 'empowered' me really :

1) Joe Pass and his philosophy of keeping things practical and ( relatively ) easy to play on the neck .

2) The two ( working ) session musicians I had met in the last few years , who believed that the ears should  have the final decision. Work out the 'Maths' later if you have nothing better to do.

Whilst it's not a straight ahead tutorial video , the 'Evening With Joe Pass'  DVD was my 'Road to Damascus' experience. It is basically an informal  mix of Joe being interviewed , Joe at rehersal, Joe gives a short 'Masterclass' to the student audience, then a few tunes from his eventual performance.  I just feel that you don't have to be a wanabee 'Jazzer' to enjoy the DVD, just interested in how the mind of a past Master 'ticks' when faced with making the elaborate - emminently more practical.  What shines throughout , is the fact that it's not a set formula he uses - it's an attitude.  :)

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2011, 05:55:24 PM »
Lovely tone and playing there Derek - I don't think I could ever play that restrained!

 :lol:

-And the world would be a duller place if you even felt the ( passing ) compulsion to do so .

 The world needs Rockers !  Without Rock, Empires would crumble - without Smooth Jazz, people would just have to eat their Dinner in silence...
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Ian Price

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 07:21:14 PM »
Thanks Derek - very useful stuff in there as always.

And tonight I had my dinner with some Wes playing quietly in the background.
I think I hate being indecisive.

Fourth Feline

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011, 07:37:31 PM »
Thanks Derek - very useful stuff in there as always.

And tonight I had my dinner with some Wes playing quietly in the background.

 :D

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2011, 01:11:23 AM »
Very nice. Moody nocturne song.
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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 06:28:57 AM »
Very nice tone and very soothing playing.  I plan on getting a Stormy for my Artcore as weel
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Fourth Feline

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Re: Funny Valentine ( First Draught ) : AII Stormy Monday Neck pickup.
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 08:05:33 PM »
Thank you all for your kind comments, very much appreciated ( as always ) .  :)

As I mentioned earlier in this  ( kindly resurected by Tomeo  :) ) thread ;  It has spurred me to get back on with progressing the 'Jazz project' with vigour - so you've all done me a great favour .

Cheers !  :D