true bypass tuner pedal for under £100 ?????

[tomjackson]

Must admit the PitchBlack is doing the job for me very well and has doen since it was released.

Sounds Live are pretty much the cheapest in shop price for the Pitchblack not sure if they have stock of the Polytune, Guitar Guitar do though but not the Pitchblack, assuming you're heading to Newcastle for shopping  :D

I shop in Newcastle IF the shops will match the best price I can get, but otherwise it'll be mail order.

The Pitch Black is the first one I looked at that I thought 'definitely not' - it looks cheap and nasty (like it will break fairly quickly).

Looks like I'm gonna have to try these out myself.

I think becuase the pitchblack is very light it feels less solid, but the cast aluminium case should be plenty strong enough.  If you don't like the look of the PB, the Hardwire tuner looks good.  I've had a few HW pedals and they are solid and reliable, but it will definitely be bigger and heavier than the PB.

[Matt77]

http://store.daddario.com/category/148523/Chromatic_Pedal_Tuner

I have one of these.
Solid build and not stupidly priced

[WezV]

another vote for the korg pitchblack or DT10

I am not keen on the boss TU-2 because of the +/- 3 cents accuracy, i am too used to my stroboflips 0.1 cent accuracy for that

the korgs are accurate to 1 cent, although the pitchblack+ is better at 0.1 cent and still just in budget

best deal on a tuner i have seen recently, the peterson istrobosoft costs £5.99 at the istore, and is apparently as accurate as the £160 versions!! - bar-stewards

no good for gigging though ;)

[phlip]

I shop in Newcastle IF the shops will match the best price I can get, but otherwise it'll be mail order.

The Pitch Black is the first one I looked at that I thought 'definitely not' - it looks cheap and nasty (like it will break fairly quickly).

Looks like I'm gonna have to try these out myself.

The Pichblack is certainly sturdier than it looks, the photos make it look plasticy and cheap but it's tough as old boots. Sounds Live is pretty much always in the ballpark cheapest on the Net and shop price is usually the same+ the del charge. Doesn't mean will absolutely be the cheapest (Or the best by a long way) but I've found it hard to beat them recently.  :D

[gwEm]

I shop in Newcastle IF the shops will match the best price I can get, but otherwise it'll be mail order.

The Pitch Black is the first one I looked at that I thought 'definitely not' - it looks cheap and nasty (like it will break fairly quickly).

Looks like I'm gonna have to try these out myself.

The Pichblack is certainly sturdier than it looks, the photos make it look plasticy and cheap but it's tough as old boots. Sounds Live is pretty much always in the ballpark cheapest on the Net and shop price is usually the same+ the del charge. Doesn't mean will absolutely be the cheapest (Or the best by a long way) but I've found it hard to beat them recently.  :D

i dont agree: i like the PB alot, but mine falls to bits every couple of gigs

[Simon D]

http://store.daddario.com/category/148523/Chromatic_Pedal_Tuner

I have one of these.
Solid build and not stupidly priced

FWIW,  +1 for the Planet Waves from me.

[tomjackson]

I shop in Newcastle IF the shops will match the best price I can get, but otherwise it'll be mail order.

The Pitch Black is the first one I looked at that I thought 'definitely not' - it looks cheap and nasty (like it will break fairly quickly).

Looks like I'm gonna have to try these out myself.

The Pichblack is certainly sturdier than it looks, the photos make it look plasticy and cheap but it's tough as old boots. Sounds Live is pretty much always in the ballpark cheapest on the Net and shop price is usually the same+ the del charge. Doesn't mean will absolutely be the cheapest (Or the best by a long way) but I've found it hard to beat them recently.  :D

i dont agree: i like the PB alot, but mine falls to bits every couple of gigs

Is it actually broke or is something just coming loose?

[darcym]

Boss TU-3 is supposed to have better bypass/buffering than TU-2 (I'm keen to try one personally) in that it's not true bypass, nor is it meant to be, but it's signal processing is intended to act as a buffer rather than a leach.

Worth a look as the TU-2 has been a staple pedal for many years.

[HTH AMPS]

Boss TU-3 is supposed to have better bypass/buffering than TU-2 (I'm keen to try one personally) in that it's not true bypass, nor is it meant to be, but it's signal processing is intended to act as a buffer rather than a leach.

Worth a look as the TU-2 has been a staple pedal for many years.

cheers for the advice - the Boss pedal tuners do work great, but the buffered bypass colours/thins the tone.  fwiw, I've yet to find a buffer that doesn't alter your tone in some way - none so far have been 100% transparent.

[_tom_]

I've been using a Korg DT10 for about 4 years now and its just started showing signs that its gonna die soon - sometimes takes multiple presses of the switch before it turns on. Pretty good going since it only cost about £50 though.

Been looking at the Pitchblack as a replacement, is it really as flimsy as gwem is making out? :(

[HTH AMPS]

I've been using a Korg DT10 for about 4 years now and its just started showing signs that its gonna die soon - sometimes takes multiple presses of the switch before it turns on. Pretty good going since it only cost about £50 though.

Been looking at the Pitchblack as a replacement, is it really as flimsy as gwem is making out? :(

I can't say how flimsy the Pitch Black is - maybe gwEm got a bad one as others on the forum all seem to have had no problems, though how many of them are gigged is not clear.

The one that looks the most solid at the minute is the TC Polytune, but I'll have to see - a trip to a shop is in order.

[hunter]

Check this comparison vid of strobo stomp vs turbo tuner.

From 1:20 on the turbo looks pretty unbelievably fast!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bY9H7ec6_0&feature=player_embedded

[HTH AMPS]

Check this comparison vid of strobo stomp vs turbo tuner.

From 1:20 on the turbo looks pretty unbelievably fast!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bY9H7ec6_0&feature=player_embedded

the Peterson is stupidly high priced and the Turbo looks really confusing to use (though very, very fast at recognising the note)

the one thing that is essential is that the tuner works well with open tunings - I gig with my Tele in open E.

[Dmoney]

the turbo tuner isn't confusing at all.
the lights spin one way for sharp and the opposite way for flat.

its also more clear if you use your neck pickup to tune with, and clearer still if you roll the tone down.

[gwEm]

to go into full details on my PB comments:

I gig it pretty hard, throw it about (no pedal board) and so on. I play on average a couple of times a month maybe, and got the pedal last year (i think..!).

What can happen is chrome nut from the input jack can become unscrewed and this causes a plastic part beneath this nut to come off at the same time. the tuner is still usable at this point, but the input jack is then somewhat wobbly (as you might imagine). This happens every couple of months.

One solution would be to superglue or lock-tite the chrome nut on, and I might do this next time it happens. I notice the jack itself is not of the highest quality (but perfectly ok).

Clearly Korg make these for a price, but my old tuner (plastic Arion stage tuner - £40) worked and still works 100% without issue for 8 years or so.

So now you can all make a fair judgement. I don't think its a flimsy pedal - but I certainly wouldn't call it bombproof.