Best pickups for RAW Death/Grind/Punk

[Stranger]

[I'm aware of the other recent thread on death metal pickups, but my desired sound is different.]

I'm looking for the best pickups and setup to get a very raw, explosive sound.  I typically play hardcore/crust but dabble in death metal, and want to get my tone heavier.  I'm basically trying to take that infamous Entombed/Dismember distortion, and push it further, to make it as grinding and explosive as possible without sounding like noise.  I'm not wanting anything refined or clear, and almost never play clean.  I play music along the lines of Terrorizer, Nausea, Wolfbrigade, Entombed, Disfear, Skitsystem, etc.  I  never scoop my mids.

I'm playing an Ibanez JS100 with AH1/2 pickups, Peavey 6505+, Avatar cab with Celestions, and of course the Boss HM-2.  I've also been plugging into a Randall RH200 and some random Peavey 4x12 during shows, in addition to my rig.  I'm not a gearhead, and this will be the first change I've ever made to a stock guitar, so don't be too harsh if I ask some stupid questions.

I'm looking at getting a Calibrated Covered set of Warpigs with ceramic magnets, but Painkillers are also appealing.  Do Warpigs or Painkillers sound best in the neck or bridge position?  How do they sound together?

I'm from the USA, so ordering something that I'm not 100% sure I'm going to be pleased with isn't feasible, because I'm going be scr@ping pennies to get these pups.  I'm not really going to be able to send/trade them for another or anything, or just buy something else if they're not what I need.

Also, I'm completely clueless about spacing.  Could someone educate me?

Suggestions and options?

[EDIT: I'm not sure why it filtered my "a" to "@", hah.]

[Madsakre]

Haha what you need is a peavey combo instead of that head :)
But it does not really matter what pickup you use with that pedal, it sucks everything up. I mean we sometimes use it in my band, and you can make a telecaster with stock pickups sound like my emg guitars :S

But still, the ideal pickup for raw crust/death sound is still the ceramic Warpig. It has the most crushing grind you can imagine! I myself plays a rather raw kind of death metal, and its ideal. The c-pig is not very ideal for the modern "Sissy" kind of death metal. Its made to kill not to cuddle!

[Madsakre]

oh and this would help you too :) Short legs, 53mm, 4 conductors, CERAMIC! :D
and is it really nesacerry to buy a set? I mean i never use the neck pickup, do you?

[Lucifuge]

[EDIT: I'm not sure why it filtered my "a" to "@", hah.]

I'd guess some kind of automated censorship is detecting anything that looks remotely like a naughty word...

Wonder what it will think about everyone's favourite Yorkshire town,  S####!!horpe...


Edit: that bad, eh? :P

[nfe]

www.myspace.com/chronocide

crust/grind/bm all with a Parker fly classic, ceraminc warpig bridge.

[Madsakre]

www.myspace.com/chronocide

crust/grind/bm all with a Parker fly classic, ceraminc warpig bridge.

LOL that sounds like my old guitar :D Parker nitefly-m with a A5 warpig

And this band... WOW i $%&#ing love that!

[dheim]

i agree with madsakre, the HM2 makes virtually everything sound the same... if you have noticed the bands whose sound you're after played with awful cheap guitars on awful cheap amps at those glorious times...

DEAD DECEASED BUT LIFE GOES ON...

great times and great bands, man... :)

anyway i'm with the others. Warpig. better if ceramic.

[dheim]

www.myspace.com/chronocide

crust/grind/bm all with a Parker fly classic, ceraminc warpig bridge.

why on earth you haven't got a contract? world is strange...

[Stranger]

Haha what you need is a peavey combo instead of that head :)
But it does not really matter what pickup you use with that pedal, it sucks everything up. I mean we sometimes use it in my band, and you can make a telecaster with stock pickups sound like my emg guitars :S

I use the HM-2 as a boost, and use the amp's distortion.  Do you think the HM-2 would still devour the sound?  Regardless, I still think I'm due for some new pickups anyway.  I've had this guitar around 5 years and never changed anything on it.

oh and this would help you too :) Short legs, 53mm, 4 conductors, CERAMIC! :D
and is it really nesacerry to buy a set? I mean i never use the neck pickup, do you?

Awesome, simple and straightforward, thanks!

I normally use the bridge pickup, but occasionally flip over to both for certain sounds or solos, and sometimes I play some stoner rock/doom that sound better with both pickups.

www.myspace.com/chronocide

crust/grind/bm all with a Parker fly classic, ceraminc warpig bridge.

This is really damn good!

[Stranger]

Still looking for some opinions or ideas on a neck pickup, not enough info from scouring the forum.  Thanks for everybody's input so far!  I'm normally on bridge, but may as well replace the neck even thought it's used less.  What could have a good lead solo tone, or perhaps anythign that could get a real stoner metal sound with the Warpig?  Seems unlikely.

[Madsakre]

Even the ceramic warpig sounds good clean :) It has a really thick and warm sound to it. The sound is so saturated that you even wanna play clean, even though youre a die hard metal head like me :)
Buy a matched set of ceramic warpigs. That way youre even on safe ground that the volume balance will be perfect