Forget bigotgate

[Will]

His comment earlier was "He better be bluddy ok though - he's the b@stard I want to vote for..."

He wanted to vote for Farage?  Has he ever seen the silly tw@t on Question Time?

I'm not sure whether he's serious. But he does have some issues over his constituency - he has "no-one to vote for" apparently. It's the Speaker's constituency, so apparently if the Speaker gets in, it's not counted in the "first-past-the-post" calculation on who forms a government... and traditionally, apparently, the other majors don't field a candidate against the speaker... I'm not sure if this is the case today... (my colleague speak with fork tongue, I feel)

Anyway, his house wasn't in this constituency last time, apparently the Labour swine have moved the boundaries to suite their needs (my god!!! would a political party ever do that??!!), so he's somewhat disgruntled over not having a voice...

He sounds like a big PR fan to me... (eg he's sent this http://www.voterpower.org.uk/ round at work...) but on the other hand he is strongly opposed to most of the LibDems other policies... poor chap... so informed... yet so confused... :lol:

Farage (UKIP), Bercow(spkr), and Stevens (independant) are the main contenders. So he is right, none of the main 3 are available. It is a bit of a bugger, but it means that the electorate have got a free mind to vote for who they want Vs having to vote tactically to try to gain a strong leading party in parliament

[Afghan Dave]

John Bercow is a disgusting replacement for the last disgusting speaker and I hope to God he loses to Nigel Farage.

It's a sad Parliament tradition that if you fall within the speakers constituency your mandate is almost ruined.

[Afghan Dave]

"Good Doggie!"  :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8665560.stm

[Elliot]

3 panel caps, Aquascutum jackets, Hacket Shirts, Levi's and Adidas Gazelle's.

You mean that I dress like a fascist?  Damn, I'm going to have to get an image change - I think I might get some DMs, a pair of bleach stained blue jeans held up by red braces, a Fred Perry shirt and a green bomber jacket.  

[38thBeatle]

The BNP guy, if I heard correctly, started the ball rolling with his insulting remark about the men being robbers but the spitting did provoke the guy and not surprisingly he reacted.People didn't condemn Mr Prescott for his understandable reaction when attacked. I can't stand the BNP myself but they do have a right to their views.
As for Mr Farage.He had a close call there. To answer the point about his participation in the constituency, the Speaker is technically neutral and therefore there is a convention that the major parties do not contest the seat. That doesn't stop anyone from doing so. Mr Farage, with some justification, argued that the constituents were having their votes taken from them. No-one seems to have bothered about this in the past but Mr Farage is a political opportunist and I see no reason why he shouldn't be so. There are a lot of people with perfectly respectable reasons for opposing the EU that are nothing to do with xenophobia or the wish to hark back to Empire-indeed there are quite a few spread throughout the member countries of the EU and seemingly gaining in number. He, as a man, may get up some peoples noses but it is generally considered good that there is an organised opposition to any particular political stance so why not with the EU?

[Dmoney]

3 panel caps, Aquascutum jackets, Hacket Shirts, Levi's and Adidas Gazelle's.

You mean that I dress like a fascist?  Damn, I'm going to have to get an image change - I think I might get some DMs, a pair of bleach stained blue jeans held up by red braces, a Fred Perry shirt and a green bomber jacket.  

Thats not what I'm saying at all. I was just pointing out brands that could be associated with football hooliganism and therefore a percentage of people with racial prejudices. I just think in 2010, its less likely to be 'skinheads' backing the BNP itching for a fight, but 'Hooligans'. In either case, i'm talking about aesthetics rather than the people.

[Elliot]

Sorry - I should have put a  :D in the post - as I was making a joke. 

[Dmoney]

i just wanted people to know I though Aquascutum + Gazelles was a strong look!  8)

[bucketshred]

I don't support the BNP (I voted left wing, put it that way) but he must've known there was a camera on him. To react like that after getting spat on was stupid.

PAddy

[Elliot]

Its no use trying to judge the BNP by the standards of rational people!  The film looks like it was made by one of the BNP supporters to me.

I used to have an Aquascutum rain coat that I got on Greenwich market for £25 - trouble is I kept getting arrested when I went into public toilets... :D

[Dmoney]

haha. i thought you were going to say people kept hitting you in the face when you went to see Millwall.

[bucketshred]

Aquascrotum. Ha.

[Johnny Mac]

Blimey that was a bit of a dust up! 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. If you gob in someones face then what do you expect. Also, if the BNP were campaigning in an Asian Community then surely they would have expected some tension. In a situation like this, spit or no spit, something else would have set it off anyway, as both groups had their blood up.

[dave_mc]

I'm not sure whether he's serious. But he does have some issues over his constituency - he has "no-one to vote for" apparently. It's the Speaker's constituency, so apparently if the Speaker gets in, it's not counted in the "first-past-the-post" calculation on who forms a government... and traditionally, apparently, the other majors don't field a candidate against the speaker... I'm not sure if this is the case today... (my colleague speak with fork tongue, I feel)

if that is true (and it's so stupid it probably is), then I sympathise with him. It's a similar thing here in NI, we can't vote for anyone who might influence the actual "real" politics of the UK, and it's very, very annoying. Of course, I combat that by just refusing to vote, but then we don't actually have a protest vote candidate standing, so...

Farage (UKIP), Bercow(spkr), and Stevens (independant) are the main contenders. So he is right, none of the main 3 are available. It is a bit of a bugger, but it means that the electorate have got a free mind to vote for who they want Vs having to vote tactically to try to gain a strong leading party in parliament

that's small consolation for your vote basically not counting. i know it's a similar thing here, and if someone said to me, "Oh, well at least you don't have to tactically vote", I wouldn't be too impressed. Though here we don't get to influence westminster and also have to vote tactically, so I guess we get the worst of both worlds.

But yeah, it seems off that if you happen to live in the speaker's constituency, that you're excluded from democracy. that sucks.

i also agree with what 38th beatle is saying, too. While i disagree with ukip's policies (i disagree with their policies regardless of the stance on europe :lol: ), i certainly don't disagree with their right to stand. ditto the bnp (of course i disagree with their policies even more).

[nfe]

I saw this video come up a few times today on various forums (rather unsurprisingly to many, I imagine, I read and post on many heavily-leftist sites). And it's all rather reminded me of the Prescott hook. If somebody spits in your face, you're likely to lamp them, and few people would likely disagree with your actions. Course, the three young guys in the video had been goaded by the BNP members, and their very presence in an almost exclusively asian area (as I understand it?) is fairly provocative in itself.

Nobody who dislikes the BNP is going to change their mind, and most of the cretins who do want to vote BNP will be saying good on 'em, whilst nuzzling their treasured, thirty year old NF flags, so it's not gonna make any odds to anything.