C-Pig v Ceramic NB

[ratspeak]

Hey BKP forum. I've been reading ever since I started gassing for bareknuckles shortly after my ESP was delivered...the JB and 59 left something to be desired.

So I decided to finally order a set (for a hardtail Horizon...maple neck-thru, quilt top, mahogany wings), and I was leaning towards Painkillers for a while. I was told that they'd be overly bright in a maple neck-thru guitar (something I really don't want to risk) and I'd be better off with a Pig or Nailbomb. I play fast/technical, dynamic stuff that varies between chugging breakdowns, sweeping/tapping/shredding and big open chords both clean and saturated. So basically I want articulation without sacrificing too much punch and crunch.  I like Ceramic magnets in the bridge, but if I went with NBs would a ceramic in the neck be any good? What's in the neck and what's in the bridge don't have to match.

[Chris Rowberry]

The ceramic Nailbomb would sound brighter then the Painkiller so the best option would be to go with the C-Pig or the Miracle Man

The Warpig has a saturated tone with a ceramic magnet to help give a clearer, defined tone with plenty of punch/crunch, great articulation for Shredding and excellent mid range grind and bite

The Miracle man also has a ceramic magnet to help with drive and clarity, it has tight aggressive bass, smooth mid range and defined top end. 

Both of these Pickups will suit your maple neck through guitar really well.

[Nolly]

I highly recommend the ceramic 'pig for that guitar, I know a couple of guys that have them in their Horizons and love them.
I personally find the Warpig neck a bit too round for my liking.. the Miracle Man neck is more defined and can easily keep up with the c-pig in the bridge. The other option would be the Painkiller neck if, like me, you like incredibly articulate, almost single-coil sounding neck pickups.

[ratspeak]

Awesome guys. Thanks. (and Nolly, you'll recognize my youtube name 3amRadio).

But yeah. I said I put in the order, but I didn't really. Nick from Axe Palace sorta intercepted my order of a ceramic NB and coldsweat neck and said I would be making a huge mistake not getting a C-pig in that guitar. Seems like where there are Horizons there are Warpigs. So I'll go with that.

As far as neck pickups go, I want something that gives you that "eye of the storm" feeling where you can just go all out legato and hear every note, but it still stays smooth. I got that when I had a DiMarzio FRED in the neck position of my SG (for curious people, it was a D-Sonic in the bridge). For the Horizon, something really warm to outweigh the brightness of the guitar, and smooth.

Your main 6 string is bolt-on, right Nolly? Since more of my guitar is maple than yours, a MM or PK might be too bright and abrasive. Do you think an alnico neckpig would be more articulate in my axe then the consensus is?

[Nolly]

The Miracle Man neck is nowhere near as bright as the PK, I think it will do you just fine.
However, the Warpig neck would certainly be a much better fit in a bright guitar than a dark one. If you want maximum fatness, go for that.

Oh and yeah, I just checked and saw you commented on one of my vids recently :)

[ratspeak]

I think I'm going to go with the 'pig set. Sounds like my kind of thing.

PK next maybe.  8)

[Nolly]

Fair choice, I'm sure you will be happy either way! At nearly 18kΩ, the Warpig neck practically plays itself, I'm sure you'll have fun shredding on it.

[ratspeak]

If there ever was a piece of equipment that could make my shredding sound better than amateur it'd be a Warpig in the neck.  :lol:

But "oho!" What's all this aftermath business now? Just saw that thread. I quite leik the concept around that piece. Maybe before I commit to the piggy %100 I should find out a little more.

[Nolly]

Honestly, I feel like the c-'Pig is the right way to go first. It's a great place for metal players to start in the BKP range, you'll be amazed at how massive it sounds, while still being phenomenally tight and clear.
I'm looking forward to trying my Aftermath when I get it, but from talking to Tim I'm expecting it to be a more specialised pickup that sacrifices some of the playability comfort of the c-'Pig to get its voicing and tightness.

[HairyChris]

If you're guitar's responsive, the C-Pig will really talk to you - especially if you're using quite a tight amp.

Neck position (A5) is more thick then fluid. Rolls off nicely to an old-school feel.

[MDV]

Aftermath would suit very well actually.

It certainly has more articulation than the cpig, has enough low end to ballance in a maple through (probably, but if it doesnt, its double screw pole (well, allen bolt), like the pig, so you can increase the low end easily). Should be fine for you.

[ratspeak]

So I decided to go with the 'Pig set in the end. I'll probably get something a little less massive later in the year, depending on wether I decide to get a new amp or another guitar. Pics when they're in.

[Warpigz]

So is the set a c-pig @ the bridge and an A-pig in the neck?

[CaptainDesslock]

i'm just thinking,

wasn't BKP getting around to making a master chart of all this? if you have x wood get x pickup for x sound.  there's so many of these threads (understandably so) why don't we just have a chart we can point everyone to?