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Hey guys, I am having a little trouble setting up wiring diagrams for a build I want to do later this year...
I want to run the bridge and neck pickups (BKP Nailbombs ^^) through their own on/on/on dpdt switches (for parallel/split/series) and then the neck through a phase switch and then into their own volume and tone pots, and then a 3 way blade and output... I don't have any diagrams for the wires of the BKPs, and I don't know enough about the electronics to make my own diagrams
any help would be appreciated thanks guys

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 02:58:13 AM »
Red is hot of slug coil
Green cold of slug coil
Black is cold of screw coil
White is hot of screw coil.


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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 03:37:15 AM »
hah, I'm an engineering student, could you translate that to positive and negative for me? :P
Hot and Cold confuse me

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 11:17:10 AM »
hah, I'm an engineering student, could you translate that to positive and negative for me? :P
Hot and Cold confuse me
Hot (+)
Cold (-)

It really depends on how you wire it. In fact, there is a start and a finish of the same wire. Usually, the start is grounded and the finish has the signal output but, everything can change.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2010, 11:20:34 AM by hermetico »

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 07:12:44 PM »
it will look something like this

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 07:14:24 PM »
although i should have re-labelled the bottom pickup as bridge ::)

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 09:53:41 PM »
it will look something like this


IMHO, the parallel/split/hb switches are wrongly wired. Middle position will not work.
Arrange it as follows, top to down, left to right:

1   2   3
4   5   6

1 - red
2 - jumper to 6
3 - open
4 - black
5 - green
6 - white and jumper to 2

To split to screw coil

or

1 - black
2 - jumper to 6
3 - open
4 - red
5 - white
6 - green and jumper to 2

to split to slug coil

I'd probably choose to split bridge to slug and neck to screw to have hum-cancelling combos when splitted both pickups.

Additional note: this diagram gives you DEPENDENT controls (standard LP wiring), that means that if you roll off one of the two volumes and you have both pickups selected in the blade switch, both pickups will shut up. It can be good or bad for you.
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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 10:25:43 PM »
you are right - seems i has the jumpers slightly wrong - shite happens ;)



and also did a version with independant volumes - which is purely a personal preference thing... i have never found a consensus on how people prefer it


i am not going to bother adjusting for different tone wiring schemes or any of the other ways people could choose to do it differently

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 01:23:27 AM »
you are right - seems i has the jumpers slightly wrong - shitee happens ;)

Don't worry, I am way far from be perfect.

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 07:05:48 AM »
its actually a switch  i use fairly regularly - never wired one incorrectly, just drew it the wrong way

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 01:47:20 PM »
BTW, in your second drawn, together with independent volumes, you did the 50's tone mod so, the guitar will sound slightly brighter, with a better roll off of trebles but, a possible unwanted bleeding, noticiable at high gain settings.

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 01:47:37 PM »
how can someone delete a message? :(

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 04:44:19 PM »
which is why i said:

i am not going to bother adjusting for different tone wiring schemes or any of the other ways people could choose to do it differently

again its a personal preference thing... i just spent a few minutes making a diagram for the OP, i would discuss all the options with a customer - which he is not

as for the humcancelling when both are single coils.  sure, its worthwhile if its a setting thats used a lot but i kept things simple because of the way the question was asked - it seems like the simpler wiring diagram may be of benfit here.

How many options is this going to give ?:
1. Bridge humbucker
2. Bridge and neck Humbucker in phase
3. bridge and neck humbucker out of phase
4. Neck humbucker
5. Bridge single coil
6. Bridge and neck single coil in phase
7. Bridge and neck single coil out of phase
8. Neck single coil
9. Bridge humbucker and neck single coil in phase
10. Bridge humbucker and neck single coil out of phase
11. Bridge single coil and neck humbucker in phase
12. Bridge single coil and neck humbucker out of phase

i do agree that seperate volumes will be a benefit on this - as it will allow more accurate dialling in for the out of phase settings


i dont think you can delete a post youself but you can delete the contents and put something meaningless in

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 04:51:23 PM »
hmm.   thats if they were just coil splits - i have not included the parallel options.  hold on a moment! ;)

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Re: Wiring Nailbombs in series/split/parallel and then phasing
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 04:58:14 PM »
1. Bridge humbucker series
2. Bridge humbucker parallel
3. Bridge series and neck series Humbucker in phase
4. Bridge parallel and neck parallel Humbucker in phase
5. bridge series and neck series humbucker out of phase
6. bridge parallel and neck parallel humbucker out of phase
7. Neck series humbucker
8. Neck parallel humbucker
9. Bridge single coil
10. Bridge and neck single coil in phase
11. Bridge and neck single coil out of phase
12. Neck single coil
13. Bridge series humbucker and neck single coil in phase
14. Bridge parallel humbucker and neck single coil in phase
15. Bridge series humbucker and neck single coil out of phase
15. Bridge parallel humbucker and neck single coil out of phase
16. Bridge single coil and neck series humbucker in phase
17. Bridge single coil and neck parallel humbucker in phase
18. Bridge single coil and neck series humbucker out of phase
19. Bridge single coil and neck parallel humbucker out of phase
20. Bridge series and neck parallel Humbucker in phase
21. Bridge parallel and neck series Humbucker in phase
22. bridge series and neck parallel humbucker out of phase
23. bridge parallel and neck series humbucker out of phase

have i missed any?

not bad going for a 3-way blade switch, 2x on-on-on mini switches and a on-on mini switch or push/pull