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how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« on: May 11, 2010, 05:58:50 AM »
Sooo..............................................................

Mansons' has there new BKP sets-

http://mansons.co.uk/news/news-item/62.html



Tim tells me they are Bridge DC15K ceramic, neck DC12K Alnico V both twin screw coil design.

How do you guys think they'll stack up to the rest of the BKP lineup?
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 06:10:16 AM »
Interesting...the 15k, tripple ceramic mag double hex bridge all matches with the aftermath. Maybe they're the same, or related

I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:

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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 06:24:56 AM »
Interesting...the 15k, tripple ceramic mag double hex bridge all matches with the aftermath. Maybe they're the same, or related

I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:

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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 06:42:48 AM »
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 08:21:19 AM »
I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:

So to be honest, when they say they'll "delight the player to whom the word "d-jent" needs no further explanation", that player probably doesn't exist!  :lol:
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 11:06:13 AM »
Indeed!

They arent aftermaths, very different, I checked.

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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 05:16:17 PM »
I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:

So to be honest, when they say they'll "delight the player to whom the word "d-jent" needs no further explanation", that player probably doesn't exist!  :lol:

Yep, I need further explanation - what's a d-jent, or djent, when it's at home?

And, come to that, what's a hypon MDV? Is it like a hyphen for exclusive use between a "d" and a "j"?

:lol: :wink:
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 06:06:30 PM »
Touche! :lol:

In all fairness, spelling isnt my strong suit - basically I can do it well enough to notice when punctuation is in a word, and it shouldnt be :lol:

'Djent' is an onomatopea (chances of having spelled that correctly approximate zero!) for the sound of bashing often unmuted notes in a percussive fashion with lots of stocatto (also likely misspelled!) and highly accentuated attack and short decay in the tone, especially the low end ('tight'), found in some modern metal stylings, best represented to my mind by the mighty Meshuggah.
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 06:16:28 PM »
Ahhh! That makes perfect sense... thanks for that

And I agree, in that case, there should be absolutely no hypons or hyphens or anything else between the d and the j :lol:
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 06:26:31 PM »
Quite welcome

Tim also alluded to a mistake in the spec - its not tripple magnet, but I dont know in what fashion and he didnt elaborate, and I didnt ask because I only really called to ask if it was the aftermath or not, and its not; very different pickups.

'Isotropic' neck pickup got my attention too - isotropic means 'the same in every direction'. It doesnt look like a homgeneous sphere. Confusing. But tim referred to it as a symmetrical wind - as in both coils have the same number of turns, the same as the majority of humbuckers out there :lol: (and I think unique for BKs; they're all asymmetric as far as I know).

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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 06:30:21 PM »
'Isotropic' neck pickup got my attention too

I wondered about that too.  It sounded like a sports drink or something to do with sunbathing.

Thanks for clearing it up Mark.
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 06:43:58 PM »
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 06:59:01 PM »
it's not the pickup that is isotropic
it's the magnet
alnico V is usually anisotropic (produces magnetic output in one direction only), while the weaker alnicos (2, 3, 4) are usually isotropic
acording to Tim Shaw, old alnico 5 bars back in the 60's pafs were unoriented, so they sound more like alnico 2
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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 07:39:17 PM »
:lol:

Fair enough, I can accept the convention in terminology (its an idiotic convention, though; if a magnet were actually isotropic, it would just be a dumb metal - for it to generate a magnetic field...the physics isnt the simplest around, we'll just say that certain properties of neighbouring atoms must be aligned, therefore non isotropic, but its not the dumbest name for anything I've ever seen). Isotropic magnets seem to be magnets where they are weakly aligned and realigneable or few are aligned, and in both cases 'isotropic' is wrong; its not. Anything that has or creates a magnetic field is definitionally not isotropic, in the proper sense of the word (like, how sciencey types use it :lol:)

I chuckled though, because tim just called that effect an "Aged magnet" - weakened artificially to take boom out of the low end.

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Re: how will these new BKP's compare you think?
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2010, 12:16:21 AM »
Interesting info and lots of laughs, as always on the BKP forum...

I saw these and immediately thought "Aftermaths?" and decided to check in on here what the deal is. So they don't have 3 magnets, medium output, but have an automatic staccato feature so they don't DJENTDJENT DJENT DJENTDJENTDJENT but rather D-JENTD-JENT D-JENT? Suhweetttt :lol: