Metal and Old People

[dave_mc]

hey, jazz is awesome too

[FELINEGUITARS]

hey, jazz is awesome too

I agree - but only if it's this kind of Jazz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmM79YadYM

[MDV]

There doesnt seem to be much in it to me

I know lots of people that are round or over 40 that like similarly extreme music to me. Maybe not quite as extreme, but getting there. I know middle aged guys that are still looking for and getting into new bands. All told the age spread of metal-listeners I know is quite even, late teens through 50s.

There also seem to be a lot of people (I think probably more) that still enjoy what they liked in their teens and early twenties the most, when in their 40s and 50s. They get into new things (new to them at least) but if what they were into then was led zep, sabbath, deep purple and the like then I've noticed (or I *think* I've noticed) a tendency to hold that as the benchmark 'true' metal, and dismiss anything newer/heavier/more extreme as being noise or ripping off black sabbath :lol: There are exceptions to that though.

I dont think I know one person that never liked anything that has ever been part of or refered to as metal that has 'discovered' it and started listening to it at a later age than about 22 or 23 or so.

I've found a similar thing to Antag and nfe with me as well - my tastes got more extreme with time. I've been listening to metal since I was about 8, largely yer popular 80s bands (pretty much what Jonathan said) plus a bit of maiden....ok, a lot of maiden, status quo, queen, deep purple, def lepard, bon jovi etc etc etc, had a dark era in my teens where I listened to little but nirvana and britpop, and found metallica and slayer when I was 16 and its just got heavier since. Bands I love now, nile, origin, meshuggah, decapitated, crytopsy, hate eternal etc I would have and indeed did dismiss as pointless noise up to the age of about 23/24 (I'm 28 now). Its levelled out a bit now and there some things that are still too extreme for me (crowpath and ion dissonance, for example), but in my on going quest for an adrenal heaviness fix the most brutal music I listen to has only become more and more brutal.

I think a lot of that is that you have to learn to hear it, and its gotta happen in stages; discerning the music in among the chaos is, I believe, a skill aquired by exposure in stages. There was an article in last weeks new scientist about a similar thing - our atunment to simple, halcyon, vs complex dissonant intervals and commonality in the emotiveness of different musica systems and how easily we can discern and hear different musical structures, how much of that is learned and how much is innate. I'll see if I can find it online.

[HTH AMPS]

I've just gone 35 at the start of this month and am still into my metal in a big way - I remember listening to the early Napalm stuff at school around '88/'89 and am still into that too - they're still putting out great records.  My Dad is 65 and still loves his metal, but not quite the br00talz stuff - old school stuff like Sabbath, AC/DC, Priest.

Some great newer bands are (well, new to me)...

* Bone Gnawer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpLDOHrULOU
* Hour Of Pennance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1G8hWlmPQk (drums are insane on this track)
* Landmine Marrathon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1-uHDFLxU (female vocals)
* Master: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNT6lMDUCQ
* Rotten Sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N825LVlH8EU
* Scarab: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Yrpfc4czE&feature=related
* Wormrot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKb18QCYnnU

[dave_mc]

I agree - but only if it's this kind of Jazz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmM79YadYM

hehe. for a minute i was worried you were linking to that guy that everyone slagged off a while back (for not sounding like music). You know the one. :lol:

[nfe]

I've just gone 35 at the start of this month and am still into my metal in a big way - I remember listening to the early Napalm stuff at school around '88/'89 and am still into that too - they're still putting out great records.  My Dad is 65 and still loves his metal, but not quite the br00talz stuff - old school stuff like Sabbath, AC/DC, Priest.

Some great newer bands are (well, new to me)...

* Bone Gnawer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpLDOHrULOU
* Hour Of Pennance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1G8hWlmPQk (drums are insane on this track)
* Landmine Marrathon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1-uHDFLxU (female vocals)
* Master: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNT6lMDUCQ
* Rotten Sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N825LVlH8EU
* Scarab: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Yrpfc4czE&feature=related
* Wormrot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKb18QCYnnU

Yas! And I've put two of them on  8)

The first metal CD i ever listened to was Master - On the Seventh Day God Created Master that my cousin leant me.

[Philly Q]

I've just gone 35 at the start of this month and am still into my metal in a big way - I remember listening to the early Napalm stuff at school around '88/'89 and am still into that too - they're still putting out great records.  My Dad is 65 and still loves his metal, but not quite the br00talz stuff - old school stuff like Sabbath, AC/DC, Priest.

Some great newer bands are (well, new to me)...

* Bone Gnawer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpLDOHrULOU
* Hour Of Pennance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1G8hWlmPQk (drums are insane on this track)
* Landmine Marrathon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1-uHDFLxU (female vocals)
* Master: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNT6lMDUCQ
* Rotten Sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N825LVlH8EU
* Scarab: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Yrpfc4czE&feature=related
* Wormrot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKb18QCYnnU

OK, I've listened to all of those now, and..... I really love the Landmine Marathon album cover artwork!  :P

[gwEm]

hey, jazz is awesome too

I agree - but only if it's this kind of Jazz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmM79YadYM

i prefer this kind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTPQVOWCiU

:)

[With Full Distortion]

$%&#ing Hails Guys
Q: p

Well, im turning 31 in June, 24.
and the older i get the more extreme and fast the music i listen becomes.
for an exemple : I started listening to MUSIC in General with : Guns n Roses. Skid Row. Then, Sepultura, Sodom, SLAYER, Black Sabbath, Sarcófago, Destruction... Then, death metal : autopsy, carcass, morbid angel, dismember, entombed, death, master, then some hardcore like offpsring , and then Nirvana. then i started listening to some Doom Metal : Celestial Season, Anathema, Katatonia, Theater of tragedy, etc.. then Some blackmetal : Immortal, Darkthrone, Mayhem, astaroth, dissection, Burzum, and the likes.  Then, Some swedish Death metal like at the gates, gates of ishtar, dark tranquillity, etc.
Then, some tech death, cryptopsy, spawn of possession ,pestilence, etc
and now it gets more weird and more extreme with some fusion metal, Fusion Heavy, Fusion death metal, tech death etc.
i like some other stuffs besides metal, but they arent as strong as metal to get my interest as strong as to buy a cd. i keep on listening to their mp3 .
i like blues, fusion jazz, classical, MPB, Folk. But never POP, and those faggy stuffs
Q: p
So, I HOPE I didnt´give up metal anytime soon. in life or death. Metal Is Transcedental.
JP

[HTH AMPS]

actually, JP's band are really good too... http://www.youtube.com/RESTINDISGRACE#p/a/u/1/Wu5k0rHhdgQ

[Elliot]

It always struck me that lots of old geezer's liked metal in a fanatical sort of way - the majority of moshers (is this word still current?) are young but there are always oldies in a metal crowd who aren't a parent of some kid in the pit. In fact the only comparable music that mixes old and young that I know of is folk music  8)

[Prawnik]

It is a truism in the wider music business that a consumer will listen to the music he/she/it*liked between the ages of 18 and 21 for the rest of his/her/its* life.

Metal and other niche genres are probably an exception however. I hated metal as a kid; I can sometimes listen to it now. Years ago, I met a 76-year old granny into extreme metal. I am pretty sure that stuff like Slayer and Megadeth (which she professed great enthusiasm for) were not widely available during her formative years.

*BKP not liable for claims of emotional chaos from gender grievance groups.

[Johnny Mac]

I still like some of it. But my choices aren't considered metal these days but they were years ago. Depends what mood I'm in. I have to try and keep calm at work, which is when I most listen to music or I'll end up tearing around in my truck like a looney scaring the shite out of people.