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« on: May 16, 2010, 10:51:49 AM »
A few weeks ago, in the "You know you've got bad GAS when..." thread, I made the following foolish (but true) statement:

"... you're walking home with a guitar case you didn't have when you left the house and you can't really remember how it came to be in your hands..."

Well, yesterday was one such day - my Roadworn 60s strat now has a Roadworn 50s strat as a friend... :roll:

There are a number of people/factors that I blame for this:

  • Philly Q and PPPMAT, for dissing the fretboard "finishing" of these particular buggers in PPPMAT's pickup thread (although you guys are top of this list, it doesn't actually mean that you're the worst offenders :lol:)
  • The guitar itself - it looked at me longingly a couple of months ago
  • The shop - for not managing to shift it in that couple of months, encouraging me to think that the guitar was either a) a dog, or b) mine, and had been waiting for me...
  • The guitar itself - for being a stunner when I decided to try it yesterday
  • The lovely Mrs R, for suggesting that I had the appropriate funds while I had the guitar in my hands (and there was I thinking I'd already used all of my 2010 budget)
  • The lovely Mrs R, (when I said to the assistant "I'm almost 100%, I think we'll go and have a coffee and discuss whether I should be buying another guitar..."), for saying "why don't you just buy it and then we'll go and get a coffee..."
  • er... me, I suppose, for not having any willpower or sense...

I think the 60s one is far prettier and more "me" (the red in the sunburst, my preference for the three-ply 11 hole guard on strats, my preference for the look of rosewood boards on strats), but this new one is lovely to play, and the "look" in the mirror is growing on me. I also have a sneaking feeling that this one is an even better guitar.

This is the first time (in nearly 30 years) that I've owned a maple-board strat, and I'm starting to discover what I've been missing. The difference is not huge (the change from stock 10s to my 11s made a much bigger difference in tone), but there's this indefinable extra "something", an air of "rightness" when I attack certain things on this guitar... Jimi Hendrix, Ritchie Blackmore, Mark Knopfler, or 70s/80s Eric Clapton stuff... they just seem to bubble, bounce, and bite more than on a rosewood board.

:D

(And btw, Philly, while we were prowling and "window" shopping, Mrs R, looking at a Jaguar and some strats, said "why on earth do they paint the headstocks of some of them, it looks dreadful..." - what a gem this woman is :lol:, I'm continually finding more good reasons as to why I married her...!)
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Re: NGD
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 11:49:11 AM »
(And btw, Philly, while we were prowling and "window" shopping, Mrs R, looking at a Jaguar and some strats, said "why on earth do they paint the headstocks of some of them, it looks dreadful..." - what a gem this woman is :lol:, I'm continually finding more good reasons as to why I married her...!)

She one crazy lady!  :P

I have to say, it looks great apart from that bloody fingerboard!  I'd be tempted to get it refinished then re-reliced, but that rather defeats the point cost-wise.

I'd also be tempted to get an aged gold anodised scratchplate, pronto.  The single-ply white looks fine, but I hate the way they're so thin and flimsy.

Sorry Andy, I'm being all negative.  It's the sound that counts.  So what pickups will this one be getting?
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Re: NGD
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 12:08:31 PM »
Nice.
'50s style Strats are my favourite, I'd be hard pushed to choose between black and burst though :?
Hows the neck? It's a V isn't it?
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 12:12:08 PM »
The wear patterns on the fingerboard are not great (notice I've already started work on the 9-12 section where they don't put any wear :lol:)... BUT, it is already starting to look very righteous in the bare wood sections - it's gonna look fine once it's less anaemic...

I'm getting used to the scratchplate as well. It looks VERY white sat next to the others, but it looks kinda right wearing it. I don't really go for the gold anodised look, otherwise I'd probably have been looking into it already.

Pickups... hmmm... Right at the moment, I am extremely tempted to keep the Tex Mexes in this one. They didn't quite cut it for me in the 60s, but in this one they sound really very nice. Even the bridge pickup on its own. I've already done my master tone mod, but even full-on, the bridge is usable.

However, I also suspect that the Sultans would sound extremely nice in this beastie. So I think poor old Edith (the CIJ Fiesta Red) is probably gonna get her second set of BKPs torn from her, even if it's just as an experiment :lol:

The "obvious" choice would be Apaches... but I want to try the Sultans in her first. Firstly so that I don't have to spend anymore right now... secondly because moving the ITs was a revelation and I think there's another one waiting... but thirdly because I know that Tex Mexes go quite well in the CIJ and it would open things up for trying Mother's Milks, or more likely the 62 set, later on.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2010, 12:18:20 PM »
A man can never have too many strats, or so they say :lol:

You lucky guy...
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2010, 12:19:57 PM »
Nice.
'50s style Strats are my favourite, I'd be hard pushed to choose between black and burst though :?
Hows the neck? It's a V isn't it?

Yeah, I'd call it a "soft" V. I have a CIJ tele with a much harder V.

The 60s RW neck feels quite chunky in comparison, although in reality I don't think there's a lot of difference, it's just the 50s hasn't got any "shoulders".

One thing that I have noticed this morning. I don't know whether it's the maple board, or the different neck profile, but I get a distinct feeling that the fingerboard is flatter on the 50s while I'm playing. It's not, they're both 7.25 (well, that's what's advertised, and looking close up they look the same - I've no method of measuring it for certain though).

A man can never have too many strats, or so they say :lol:

You lucky guy...

:lol:

Yep, my strats have caught up with my teles at last (seeing as I'm a strat guy really).
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2010, 12:29:58 PM »
The wear patterns on the fingerboard are not great (notice I've already started work on the 9-12 section where they don't put any wear :lol:)... BUT, it is already starting to look very righteous in the bare wood sections - it's gonna look fine once it's less anaemic...

They've put the least wear on the bits of the neck I play the most!  Weird.

Interesting what you said about the '60s neck feeling chunkier, the couple of '50s V necks I've owned felt too big to me.  I know what you mean about the lack of "shoulders", but it's the extra depth near the nut I don't get on with.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2010, 12:40:29 PM »
Holding them side by side (again, no accurate way of measuring them here), it looks as if the 50s RW neck is the same depth as the 60s - so yeah, taking some off for a soft V would make it feel less chunky, I guess :lol:. I think my CIJ tele has a deeper neck
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2010, 03:26:35 PM »
Congratulations Andy on your new purchase.  I will intrested to here how you get on with any pickup swaps you try. Enjoy ! :D
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2010, 03:47:18 PM »
Very nice Andy!
I want one!  :D
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2010, 04:05:26 PM »
Great buy Andy- looks great.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2010, 05:11:28 PM »
She is quite the lovely specimen, the guitar that is. I'm sure your wife is too.

I thought 50s had the larger headstock, or maybe that's the 60s one.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2010, 06:07:43 PM »
excellent :D

I agree with your wife about the painted headstocks too, not a fan. only painted headstocks i like are when a guitar has a figured top (maple say), and a figured, painted veneer is put on the headstock to match.

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2010, 06:43:32 PM »
Looks great Andy I love sunburst strats! I am reliably informed that the wear pattern looks better with some grime in it from playing time so let me know how it goes. :) I liked te 50's 'V' shape - very playable.

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2010, 06:59:31 PM »
That's a really lovely guitar you have there.  I cannot help myself around maple boarded sunburst Strats.  It's a weakness. :)