Long Tenon necks

[tomjackson]

I ALWAYS use a long tenon joint - full width as well
This is why I can shave away the heel of my Lion guitars and have great sustain etc - because of the big surface area that is glued together in the long tenon joint

Did you post a photos of the neck construction of a Lion once Jonathan, I had a search but couldn't seem to find it.

[HTH AMPS]

Dave didn't you put a load of stuff into your SG to make it more original spec?

I did, but as Gwem says it was to make it look right.  It's a proper old SG that deserved to look and sound more like it did originally.  The parts that were on it were cheap and tone sucking, with the exception of the tuners.

It's the muppets with brand new Gibson R9s that send them in for "makeovers" that are beyond belief.  They have the top re-carved, tailpieces altered, truss rods replaced etc.  Blummin madness!   :shock:

I take it you've seen the thread on the LPF where that guy has sent his to that Florian (sp?) guy.  Seems insane to me - like I said on that forum, why not just get the guy to make a Les Paul from scratch  :?

[WezV]

They do have that annoying "lip" in the treble cutaway to get in the way of your hand though.

 

its not really needed either.   full width tenons are much nicer to my ears too. 

[FELINEGUITARS]

I ALWAYS use a long tenon joint - full width as well
This is why I can shave away the heel of my Lion guitars and have great sustain etc - because of the big surface area that is glued together in the long tenon joint

Did you post a photos of the neck construction of a Lion once Jonathan, I had a search but couldn't seem to find it.

Dont know if I did
I always use a 3 piece neck with the centre splice rotated for strength and avoidance of twisting
I normally use a small volute to strengthen the headstock and reduce risk of breakage

Here is a front view of a long tenon - note the tenon goes right the way to the end of the neck pickup cavity



Here is a rear view showing the neck construction and the carved heel
It doesn't get any better than this IMO
Along with superior quality of parts and attention to detail, this is our main selling point on the Lion model



Here is a view when all finished

[tomjackson]

Thanks, looks great.

If I ever get a proper Les Paul, I think it will be a Lion!

[Tellboy]

Sheesh ................. if they were producing ill fitting joints anything like the 'short' version in the 60's it's not surprising that early SG necks had problems.

[Dreichlift]

I ALWAYS use a long tenon joint - full width as well
This is why I can shave away the heel of my Lion guitars and have great sustain etc - because of the big surface area that is glued together in the long tenon joint

In theory I would imagine it'd be pretty straight forward to make a Lion with a bolt on neck right?

[gwEm]

I ALWAYS use a long tenon joint - full width as well
This is why I can shave away the heel of my Lion guitars and have great sustain etc - because of the big surface area that is glued together in the long tenon joint

In theory I would imagine it'd be pretty straight forward to make a Lion with a bolt on neck right?

WTF!? you'd find it hard to get past jonathan's craftsman pride i imagine!

[Copperhead]

i've seen that pic of phillyq's several times, and it still shocks me - the low contact area on the short tenon.

Just needs a neck plate and four bolts....

[Sifu Ben]

The great thing about this forum Tom is I've been quite tempted by the Slash sig (although I can't really afford it, but due to the limited run I've been contemplating just sticking it on the card  :?) but having read this thread I've been reminded just how awesome Feline Lions are and am now thinking I'll put a bit by towards getting one instead.

[FELINEGUITARS]

We have done a bolt on Lion for someone who had specific reasons for wanting one
The heel and neck joint had to be a little different - wasn't the same slick affair that the glued necks are



Still gobsmackingly pretty though - was a flat front with a strat like arm contour and piezo and MIDI

[Dreichlift]

I ALWAYS use a long tenon joint - full width as well
This is why I can shave away the heel of my Lion guitars and have great sustain etc - because of the big surface area that is glued together in the long tenon joint

In theory I would imagine it'd be pretty straight forward to make a Lion with a bolt on neck right?

WTF!? you'd find it hard to get past jonathan's craftsman pride i imagine!

I was just thinking it'd be interesting having a series of necks with varying wood combinations to play with. Aesthetically I still prefer the set neck version though I often daydream of a through neck version, though I imagine there would be little point given the quality of Jonathan's construction. Still I imagine it would have more impact on tone than the inch of wood that separates the long and short neck tenon.

[ToneMonkey]

I was just thinking it'd be interesting having a series of necks with varying wood combinations to play with.

And then you could have a load of spare bodies to go with the necks.  Say 10 of each = 100 combinations.  That would even keep Dave happy for a week.

Have 10 modular pickup units (which you could just unscrew and srcrew another one in) and you've got 1000 combinations.

Right.... I'm off to get my crayons out  :lol:

[gwEm]

well, i stand corrected!!

[FELINEGUITARS]

well, i stand corrected!!

The bolt on neck isn't a patch on the glued in version
Glued in feels way better